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Re: $$$ MONEY WILL COME TO YOU $$$

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From: Kevin John Blunt
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 00:00
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Charmaine Radellant wrote in message
<7fd2ma$861$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>Thank you for the information regarding this chain letter.
>Mark Davis wrote in message <370C63A5.3F7C6647@postoffice.swbell.net>...
>>Subject:
>>  Re: $$$ MONEY WILL COME TO YOU $$$
>>       Date:
>>            Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:00:50 -0700
>>      From:
>>            Mark Davis <medavis@postoffice.swbell.net>
>>   Reply-To:
>>            medavis@swbell.net
>>        To:
>>            fake@fake.net
>>        CC:
>>            abuse@swbell.net
>>
>> References:
>>            1 , 2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>To Whom It May Concern,
>>
>> It seems that I have gotten myself caught up in something that I did
>>not think was illegal. I am replying to this E-Mail letter sent
>>to me and some of the news groups that I mistakenly sent the chain
>>letter to. As I said, I did not know that this letter was
>>considered a chain letter and that it was illegal. With this now in
>>mind. I wish, I had not sent it. And wish anybody that reads it
>>would disregard it. Anybody from the Post office, I.R.S. or SWBell that
>>wish to talk to me about this and or advise me on this
>>subject or wishes to know where I got this idea from. Please send me an
>>E-Mail letter and I will reply A.S.A.P. I am sorry that, I
>>did this now but there isn't anything that I can do to take back the
>>E-Mail letters that I sent out already, as soon as I had any hint
>>of this letter being illegal I stopped sending it out. I will send a
>>copy of this E-Mail letter and all of its contents (with yours and my
>>commits) to all of the News Groups that I sent the E-Mail letter to.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mark Davis
>>medavis@swbell.net
>>
>>Shadow wrote:
>>
>>  I have included 2 links to the post offices web page for those that
>>want
>>  more information. This is an ILLEGAL SCAM do not join in one of these
>>  chain letters.
>>
>>  (the Post Office has rearranged their Web site and I haven't updated
>>the
>>  links yet)
>>
>>   Also any of these that I receive I do forward to the Postal
>>Inspector,
>>  I.R.S., and my ISP for action
>>
>>  http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm
>>
>>  A chain letter is a "get rich quick" scheme that promises that your
>>mail
>>  box
>>  will soon be stuffed full
>>  of cash if you decide to participate. You're told you can make
>>thousands
>>  of
>>  dollars every month if
>>  you follow the detailed instructions in the letter.
>>
>>  A typical chain letter includes names and addresses of several
>>  individuals
>>  whom you may or may not
>>  know. You are instructed to send a certain amount of money usually
>>  $5--to the
>>  person at the top
>>  of the list, and then eliminate that name and add yours to the bottom.
>>
>>  You are
>>  then instructed to mail
>>  copies of the letter to a few more individuals who will hopefully
>>repeat
>>  the
>>  entire process. The letter
>>  promises that if they follow the same procedure, your name will
>>  gradually move
>>  to the top of the list
>>  and you'll receive money -- lots of it.
>>
>>  There's at least one problem with chain letters. They're illegal if
>>they
>>  request money or other items of
>>  value and promise a substantial return to the participants. Chain
>>  letters are
>>  a form of gambling, and
>>  sending them through the mail (or delivering them in person or by
>>  computer,
>>  but mailing money to
>>  participate) violates Title 18, United States Code, Section 1302, the
>>  Postal
>>  Lottery Statute. (Chain
>>  letters that ask for items of minor value, like picture postcards or
>>  recipes,
>>  may be mailed, since such
>>  items are not things of value within the meaning of the law.)
>>
>>  Recently, high-tech chain letters have begun surfacing. They may be
>>  disseminated over the Internet,
>>  or may require the copying and mailing of computer disks rather than
>>  paper.
>>  Regardless of what
>>  technology is used to advance the scheme, if the mail is used at any
>>  step
>>  along the way, it is still
>>  illegal.
>>
>>  The main thing to remember is that a chain letter is simply a bad
>>  investment.
>>  You certainly won't get
>>  rich. You will receive little or no money. The few dollars you may get
>>
>>  will
>>  probably not be as much
>>  as you spend making and mailing copies of the chain letter.
>>
>>  Chain letters don't work because the promise that all participants in
>>a
>>  chain
>>  letter will be winners is
>>  mathematically impossible. Also, many people participate, but do not
>>  send
>>  money to the person at
>>  the top of the list. Some others create a chain letter that lists
>>their
>>  name
>>  numerous times--in various
>>  forms with different addressee. So, in reality, all the money in a
>>chain
>>  is
>>  going to one person.
>>
>>  Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive
>>reports
>>  on
>>  credit, mail order sales,
>>  mailing lists, or other topics. The primary purpose is to take your
>>  money, not
>>  to sell information.
>>  "Selling" a product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if
>>  there's
>>  a claim that the U.S.
>>  Postal Service or U.S. Postal Inspection Service has declared the
>>letter
>>  legal. This is said only to
>>  mislead you. Neither the Postal Service nor Postal Inspectors give
>>prior
>>  approval to any chain letter.
>>
>>  Participating in a chain letter is a losing proposition. Turn over any
>>
>>  chain
>>  letter you receive that asks
>>  for money or other items of value to your local postmaster or nearest
>>  Postal
>>  Inspector. Write on the
>>  mailing envelope of the letter or in a separate transmittal letter, "I
>>
>>  received this in the mail and believe
>>  it may be illegal."
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>---
>>
>>  http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/usc18/mailfr.htm
>>
>>     [Inspection Service Seal]   United States
>>                                 Postal Inspection Service
>>
>>  Mail Fraud and Misrepresentation
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>  Title 18, United States Code
>>
>>  Section 1341. Frauds and swindles
>>
>>  Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice
>>to
>>  defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or
>>  fraudulent
>>  pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan,
>>
>>  exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure
>>  for
>>  unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security,
>>or
>>  other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out
>>to
>>  be
>>  such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing
>>such
>>  scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office
>>or
>>  authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to
>>
>>  be
>>  sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be
>>  deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any
>>  private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives
>>  therefrom,
>>  any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail
>>or
>>  such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at
>>  which
>>  it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed,
>>  any
>>  such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
>>not
>>  more than five years, or both. If the violation affects a financial
>>  institution, such person shall be fined not more than $ 1,000,000 or
>>  imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
>>
>>  Section 1342. Fictitious name or address
>>
>>  Whoever, for the purpose of conducting, promoting, or carrying on by
>>  means
>>  of the Postal Service, any scheme or device mentioned in section 1341
>>of
>>  this title or any other unlawful business, uses or assumes, or
>>requests
>>  to
>>  be addressed by, any fictitious, false, or assumed title, name, or
>>  address
>>  or name other than his own proper name, or takes or receives from any
>>  post
>>  office or authorized depository of mail matter, any letter, postal
>>card,
>>  package, or other mail matter addressed to any such fictitious, false,
>>
>>  or
>>  assumed title, name, or address, or name other than his own proper
>>name,
>>  shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five
>>years,
>>  or
>>  both.
>>
>>  Section 1345. Injunctions against fraud
>>
>>  (a)
>>
>>       (1) If a person is -
>>            (A) violating or about to violate this chapter or section
>>287,
>>            371 (insofar as such violation involves a conspiracy to
>>  defraud
>>            the United States or any agency thereof), or 1001 of this
>>  title;
>>            or
>>            (B) committing or about to commit a banking law violation
>>            (defined in section 3322(d) of this title), the Attorney
>>  General
>>            may commence a civil action in any Federal court to enjoin
>>  such
>>            violation.
>>
>>       (2) If a person is alienating or disposing of property, or
>>intends
>>  to
>>       alienate or dispose of property, obtained as a result of a
>>banking
>>  law
>>       violation (as defined in section 3322(d) of this title) or
>>property
>>       which is traceable to such violation, the Attorney General may
>>       commence a civil action in any Federal court -
>>            (A) to enjoin such alienation or disposition of property; or
>>
>>            (B) for a restraining order to -
>>                 (i) prohibit any person from withdrawing, transferring,
>>
>>                 removing, dissipating, or disposing of any such
>>property
>>  or
>>                 property of equivalent value; and
>>                 (ii) appoint a temporary receiver to administer such
>>                 restraining order.
>>
>>            (3) A permanent or temporary injunction or restraining order
>>
>>            shall be granted without bond.
>>            (b) The court shall proceed as soon as practicable to the
>>  hearing
>>            and determination of such an action, and may, at any time
>>  before
>>            final determination, enter such a restraining order or
>>            prohibition, or take such other action, as is warranted to
>>            prevent a continuing and substantial injury to the United
>>  States
>>            or to any person or class of persons for whose protection
>>the
>>            action is brought. A proceeding under this section is
>>governed
>>  by
>>            the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, except that, if an
>>            indictment has been returned against the respondent,
>>discovery
>>  is
>>            governed by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.
>>
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>  P.S. The I.R.S. is also interested in the claims made in these letters
>>
>>  of making $50,000.00 in a couple of months (they Will want to collect
>>  TAXES)
>>
>>  THE LETTER ATTACHED IS AN ILLEGAL CHAIN LETTER I INCLOSED IT AS AN
>>  EXAMPLE
>>  OF WHAT SOME MORON BELIEVED AND POSTED.
>>
>>  Mark Davis wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Subject: $$$ MONEY WILL COME TO YOU $$$
>>  >
>>  > WANNA MAKE MONEY??????
>>  >
>>  > READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. A little
>>  > while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, just like you are
>>now,
>>  > and came across an article similar to this that said you could make
>>  > thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of
>>
>>  > $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", but
>>  > like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said
>>  > that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in the
>>
>>  > article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of
>>  > the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups.
>>  > (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it
>>  > over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it.
>>I
>>  > figured: "what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00,
>>  > right?" Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!...
>>  > within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I
>>
>>  > figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in. In my
>>  > first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had
>>
>>  > made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over
>>  > $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I
>>  > have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in
>>  > rapidly. It's certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more
>>
>>  > than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most
>>  > importantly, why it works....Also, make sure you print a copy of
>>this
>>  > article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need
>>it.
>>  > I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you
>>  > will start making more money than you thought possible by doing
>>  > something so easy!
>>  > Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out or
>>  > download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come
>>  > in!
>>  > It's easy. It's legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus
>>  > postage)
>>  > IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not
>>  > illegal; and it is virtually no risk - it really works!!!!
>>  > If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will
>>receive
>>  > extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE:
>>  > Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be
>>  > yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of
>>  > the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its
>>  > success by carefully adhering to the instructions.
>>  > You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this
>>business
>>  > your product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in
>>  > the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations
>>are
>>  > happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made
>>  > from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from
>>
>>  > people like you and me asking to be included in that list.
>>  >
>>  > 18 Years and older please!
>>  >
>>  > Here are the 4 easy steps to success:
>>  >
>>  > STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
>>  > each piece of paper
>>  >
>>  > "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."
>>  > Name: & Address:
>>  >
>>  > Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces
>>of
>>  > paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent
>>  > thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal
>>
>>  > them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of
>>  > paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00
>>  > bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
>>  > LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying
>>for
>>  > it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried
>>  > about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S.
>>
>>  > Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed
>>  > legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > #1)  Jake Conner
>>  > 213 Royal Oak Cir.
>>  > Longwood, FL 32779
>>  >
>>  > #2) Joey Re
>>  > 1110 Portsmith Dr.
>>  > Island Lake, IL 60042
>>  >
>>  > #3) Timothy Reed
>>  > 9665 Old Rte. 31
>>  > Clyde, NY 14433
>>  >
>>  > #4) Halldor Gunnarsson
>>  > Hvammstangabraut 22
>>  > 530 Hvammstangi, Iceland
>>  >
>>  > #5) David Jhonson
>>  > Drangahrauni 6E
>>  > Hafnarfir�i 220,  Iceland
>>  >
>>  > #6) Mark Davis
>>  > 19242 Cypress Canyon
>>  > Katy, Texas 77449
>>  > U.S.A.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
>>  > the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR
>>  > Name as number 6 on the list.
>>  >
>>  > STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as
>>
>>  > close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at
>>  > least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All
>>
>>  > you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you
>>
>>  > make!
>>  >
>>  > This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18
>>  > Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws.
>>  >
>>  > Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need
>>money,
>>  > you can use it again, and again.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the
>>  > honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully
>>  > adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of
>>  > integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many
>>  > others have received will come your way.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you,
>>  > either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send
>>you.
>>  > This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it
>>might
>>  > be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk
>>  > of mail theft.)
>>  > So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully
>>followed,
>>  > six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List
>>  > Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list
>>  > geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you
>>will
>>  > be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for
>>
>>  > only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above)
>>Send
>>  > it now, add your own name to the list and you're in business!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------
>>  > Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
>>
>>  > posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and
>>  > drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy'
>>  > from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the
>>  > computer's memory.
>>  > Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top
>>
>>  > of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will
>>  > paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your
>>name
>>  > to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If
>>  > you want to do your postings in different settings, you'll always
>>  > have this file to go back to.
>>  > Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for
>>  > various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites,
>>  > discussions.)
>>  > Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new
>>  > message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste
>>  > from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header
>>that
>>  > everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
>>  > particular group, click the post message button. You're done with
>>  > your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is
>>  > jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang
>>of
>>  > it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER,
>>THE
>>  > MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU
>>  > HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving
>>  > money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to
>>  > rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If
>>  > you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as
>>
>>  > the postman will deliver it.
>>  >
>>  > **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
>>  > Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies
>>(a
>>  > very
>>  > low
>>  > example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter.
>>Now,
>>  > each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
>>  > postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each
>>
>>  > of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each
>>  > make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I
>>
>>  > will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn
>>  > around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive
>>5
>>  > replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the
>>
>>  > fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with
>>  > my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made
>>me
>>  > $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to
>>200
>>  > newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200
>>  > newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original
>>  > investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on
>>the
>>  > list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send
>>  > out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number
>>6
>>  > again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you
>>  > realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the
>>  > internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are
>>  > now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think
>>  > so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no
>>  > one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that
>>  > happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest
>>  > people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are
>>  > willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new
>>  > users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual
>>  > internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really
>>  > work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: "Kevin John Blunt" <KEVIN@kevs.swinternet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: $$$ MONEY WILL COME TO YOU $$$
Date: 1999/05/02
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