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Started by ROBERT CLARK
Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:00
Internet Scams! 2
Author: ROBERT CLARK
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:00
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Someone pointed out to me that the secret of making money is
timing. "Timing is everything." From my experience, this tactic
is used more often falsely than legitimately. Timing is hardly
"everything" in a stable work-at-home business. Maybe in the
stock-market, but not here. If timing is indeed involved, then
it falls into the "Get Rich Quick" concept, and we all know that
these things are usually scams.
16. There will be a sense of popularity in the "job offer". As I
already stated in item #8 (above), if you think that others are
doing the work, too, then you'll be inclined to believe that it
is not a scam. So you might see the following written in the job
offer: "If you don't hear from us immediately, don't worry!
We've been having so much trouble keeping up with the demand
lately. But we will get to you!" It misleads you into thinking
that tons of other people are doing this, so it must be
legitimate. WRONG! Just assume that nobody but yourself
has responded so far.
17. There will be a sense that they want you, because YOU are
special to them. For example, the scam might say: "We know
you're smart, because you're one of the elite few who has
figured out how to get onto the internet to read this message.
That's why we're able to offer YOU this great deal!" They want
you to be thinking to yourself that you are special, and that
the reason why everyone else in the world isn't doing this
wonderful job and making tons of money is because they
aren't as smart as you. Hogwash! It's just another trick
they're trying to pull on you to bypass your logical reasoning
brain and get right to your emotional/irrational brain. Stay
firmly grounded in reality. You are NOT special to any of these
people. You are just a dollar sign to them.
18. There's just a general vagueness about exactly *what* it is
you'd be doing. Here's a typical example of something you might
see:
"Have you ever dreamed about making $1000, $2000, or even
$3000 PER WEEK?! Well, stop dreaming about it and DO
something about it! If you're in a dead-end job or you're
unemployed, now is the perfect time to say YES to your future.
Don't pass up this wonderful opportunity to better yourself.
Send SASE for more information..."
You can see that this ad says absolutely nothing to you about
what it is you'd be doing. It's so vague that nobody can flame
it for any reason. So you will NOT see people responding to the
article with a thousand letters like, "This is scam! Don't fall
for it!" These scammers are clever that way. This is exactly
why you can assume it's nothing more than a scam. If the people
who posted the ad thought it was something people might like to
hear, then they wouldn't try to disguise it; they'd just come
right out and tell you what it was they were selling. Instead,
they are afraid that someone's going to be able to identify it as
a scam. This way, they can send their scam offer directly to
the suckers out there, and the suckers won't see anything
negative about it.
19. Beware of "Money Back Guarantees." This is another thing
scammers use to mislead you into thinking that what they're doing
is legitimate. If you get taken for $25, do you really think
you'll get your money back even if the guy gave you a money back
guarantee? And what are you going to do when he doesn't give you
the money back? Are you going to spend $100 just to file a law
suit for $25, not to mention off-time from your day job and
lawyer fees? The scammers all know that you're not going to file
a suit against them for a measly $25. Therefore, just pretend
that you did not see the money back guarantee statement written
on the ad.
20. "Information Packages." Here, the idea is that if you come
up with a good money-making idea, you will share your idea with
others for a price. Again, the price is usually $25. The
package is usually advertised as being a "complete system." It
sometimes misleads people into believing that if they purchase
the package, they will be able to start a business immediately,
painlessly, and without any other help, when in fact, they are
the ones who will have to do most of the work in setting up their
own businesses. And sometimes it might mislead people into
thinking that the package is just a startup kit used to
facilitate their "employment" in some other company, when in
fact, they're just being sold information. They make false
claims that hundreds of people have used their packages to make
money, when in fact, nobody has.
When you get the package, you will find that you cannot utilize
the information at all. In the end, you will have wasted your
$25 for a package of perhaps 20 pages long which is absolutely
useless.
21. "No experience necessary. No resumes needed. No interviews
neeeded. No references needed. No education requirements
necessary. Etc." These are things you should beware of if
someone is offering you a work-at-home job. I don't know of too
many normal jobs that are given to just anyone without an
interview, without a resume, without education, without
references, etc. A big warning light should be going off in
your mind whenever you encounter one of these "job offers".
These job offers will often be accompanied by tart-up/membership
fees." Now, if you were a legitimate company offering a job,
which would you rather do:
1) Ask your applicants for money to prove he/she is the right
person for the job? or 2) Ask your applicants for their
references, an interview, etc.? After all, these job offers
will almost always suggest that one could be making tons of
money, and if that is so, I doubt an employer would want to
give that money to some uneducated slob that he/she doesn't even
know. If it were true that any uneducated slob could do the job,
then why doesn't the employer merely hire a bunch of people
at, say, $6.00 an hour to do the job, and then the employer
could pocket the "tons of money" for him/herself?? It just
doesn't make sense. What will normally happen is that you will
pay your start-up fee, they will take it, and then give you an
impossible task which will yield no income for you whatsoever.
Infinity...
In the future, I'll be adding to this list, but for now, that
should suffice. You can start to see the patterns for yourself
on your own.
SOME SPECIFIC SCAMS REVEALED:
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Here is a very short list of scams that I've seen repeatedly
popping up on the net, and I thought I'd expose them:
A. "Make Money Fast": In this scam, you will see a message from
someone, probably some guy named Dave Rhodes, who describes how
he has never failed to make $50,000 per month doing this. Then
he lists instructions for you to follow... You will see a list of
10 names and addresses listed on the bottom of the message. Your
job is to first mail the first 5 people on the list, (#1, #2,
#3, #4, and #5), a one-dollar-bill each. Then, you are supposed
to bump up the list one slot. So #1 gets tossed
out, #2 becomes #1, #3 becomes #2, and so on. Then you
insert your own name and address as the new #10. Once you do
that, you send the revised document to as many other people as
you can. The instructions tell you to post it in as many
newsgroups as you can and title it "Make Money Fast". Supposedly
soon afterwards, you should be seeing thousands and thousands of
dollars from people! YEAH, RIGHT!!
First of all, this scam is illegal, even though it will
specifically say it is not. I'm not quite sure about the
specifics of it, but I think it's refered to as a "Ponzi Scheme"
(a pyramid scheme where Ponzi was the name of the guy who first
got caught doing this, I believe). It's under a chain mail /
mail fraud statute somewhere, and if you get caught, then
you're going to jail. [Maybe someone can fill me in on the exact
specifics here.] It doesn't matter if you do it through
the postal service or through email; it's still mail fraud.
Besides the fact that it's illegal, do you honestly think it
would work? Shaa! If you're like me, what's stopping you from
just keeping your $5, not sending out ANY money, and just
putting your name down as #5 on the list before sending it
(instead of #10)?? Seriously, you'd have to be a complete moron
to send any money to anyone on the list. There are many
variations of this scam. Sometimes people call it a "mailing
list" collection service, whereby you're just paying the first
5 names on the list $1 for their names, and others will pay
you $1 a piece for your name. They go on to say that this is
*why* it is legal. But make no mistake, it is illegal.
B. "Work-At-Home with Your PC" (data entry / report
generation)... These scams will tell you to send for FREE
instructions on how you can be making TONS of money with just
your home PC, printing reports,doing data entry, managing
mailing lists, etc. You name it. It doesn't matter what service
you'd be doing. It's just the fact that you're "using your PC at
home"... In these scams, you send away for the FREE information,
usually giving them a SASE, and they send you back a little, 2
to 3 page letter giving you some snow-job about the wonderful
amounts of money you could be making, but you just have to send
them $25 to get started! What you are promised for your $25 is
usually a computer disk with all the software you need to get
started in business, making money immediately. Well, you think
it's a wonderful thing, and the $25 startup fee is really small,
so you do it! After a few weeks, you get your disk back with
little or no further instructions.
So you look at what's on the disk, and low and behold, what
you find there are a few text files. You read the text files,
and as it turns out, the text files are just the same ad you
responded to and the same "report" that you got back asking for
your $25! In other words, you've been had! If it was advertised
as "report generation", then you would be generating reports
each time some other sucker sent you their SASE's for your
"report" on how they can be making tons of money. In other
words, you have to become another scammer to make your money!
Most people just realize that they've been scammed and stop
right there, but if you're contemplating becoming a scammer,
stop. You could go to jail. Chances are, the person which sold
you the scam in the first place has been doing this far longer
than you have. He knows how to avoid getting caught. Do you?
If you thought it was hard getting a job before, try it after
you have a fellony on your permanent record! Not to mention that
you might be going to jail for several years.
C. "HUD Refund Tracer" scam. Well, this isn't really a scam,
perse. It goes like this: The U.S. government has setup a
program whereby you can make a commission on "refunds" owed to
home-owners that took a loan out from the goverment a while back
and paid it off. The deal was that if the home-owner paid the
loan back on time, he/she could get a 10%(?) refund back from
the government. The problem is that there's a lot of people
who forgot to collect their refunds, so it's up to you, as a
HUD refund tracer, to track these people down, tell them that
they have $1000 to $3000 coming to them, and that you want
10-30% of that money for your services.
The scammers put together a "package" telling you how to run
this service. They say, "You can start this business without
our help, but it's unlikely that you'll know how! For just $25,
we will send you all of the info needed to be making money in
this business right away!" What you'll probably get is a bunch of
instructions, basically telling you what you would've been able
to deduce after a short time talking with the government about
it. The package might save you some time figuring out how to run
the business, but that's where the benefits stop. After
receiving your initial information package, you'll read
somewhere that you need to pay them something like $50 for a list
of names and addresses of people who are owed money in your
state. So you pay it. Next, there is the problem of finding
out their present phone numbers. You could spend money calling
Information for those phone numbers, or for just $40 more, you
can get their CD-ROM filled with names, addresses, and phone
numbers of everyone living in your state. Now you've invested
over $100 in their stuff. But that's a drop in the bucket
according to them, compared to what you'll be making... Right?
You have to ask yourself, if you were one of those home
owners being owed $3000 back from the government, what would
your reaction be to someone you don't even know telling you on
the phone that he wants 30% of your money? If you're like me,
you'd hang up on the guy and go to the government to collect your
money directly. You MIGHT be able to ask for 1% to 3% of their
money, but certainly NOT 30%. 1% of $3000 equates to $30. For
ALL of your work, you get a measly $30 check. Oh boy!
That's certainly not the $500 check that is advertised by the
people selling this information package. And the amount of work
involved in tracking these people down, doing the paper work,
and the long distance telephone bills are not worth it for just
$30.
Besides that, why aren't the scammers all doing it if they
could be making untold riches? Why are they fiddling around with
this little "send us $25 for info" scheme? The answer is that
they aren't making any money of the HUD Refund tracer program.
Instead, they make their money by selling you their reports and
software. So you think, "Well, what's wrong with that?"
Answer: Imagine if you really had a business idea that could
make you $1000 per week for as little as 10-15 hours of work
(like they claim)? If you paid full-time employees $6.00 per
hour to call these people up for you, then for paying them
$60-$90 or so, you will be making $1000. That's a 1000% to
1600% return for your investment. Now, I don't know too much
about business, but for that kind of return, wouldn't you have
to be a complete idiot not to get into it? I have never heard of
any business making that kind of a return. So why aren't these
guys doing this program that they are offering? The answer,
of course, is that the program does NOT generate anywhere near
those kind of returns. I'd be surprised if anyone was able to
make a living out of doing this, or even be able to make any
profit whatsoever off of it.
Generalizing:
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There are a lot of scams which offer you "information packages"
for the low-low price of just $25 (or whatever they're asking).
You're just paying for information, that's all. It's up to you
to utilize that information, and often, you will find that it's
not worth it. Your $25 will be wasted. And again, you have to
ask yourself why the authors of those information packages aren't
doing what they're writing about. If what they've written is
true, (that you can make so much money in your spare time), then
why aren't they doing it?
D. "Earn $1800 weekly" (mailing circulars, stuffing envelopes,
etc.) In this scam, you are promised to be making as much as you
want for doing something suitably simple (so simple a child could
do it). For example, going on right now is a scam offering
"$1800/wk mailing circulars" (Sergei S*kolov, I think, is the
name of the guy running the scam). Well, you really have to ask
yourself why ANYONE would pay YOU $1800/week doing something so
simple as mailing circulars. That's nearly $100,000 per year,
about as much money as doctors and lawyers make. So why would
just any poor, old, uneducated slob be able to make that kind of
money doing something so easy a child could do it? Exactly.
Something smells fishy here. Same thing goes for "stuffing
envelopes": Often you'll hear something like, "Make $5.00 per
envelope stuffing envelopes!" Or you'll hear, "Make money
PROCESSING MAIL at home." Come on! $5.00 PER ENVELOPE THAT YOU
STUFF? You think to yourself, "Oh m' gawd! I can stuff 50
envelopes per hour, so I could be making $250 per hour!
Amazing!" Yeah, right! This is all the SAME scam, and it's
linked to my second scam I explained (the report generation
scam).
Now, if you were a company, and you had circulars or bulk
mailings to send out, why on earth would you pay someone you
don't even know as much as $5.00 an envelope to simply stuff it
and send it out? I've seen it as low as $1.00 per envelope and
as much as $15.00 per envelope! If you're a smart company, you
will do your own in-house bulk mailings, paying your
secretaries/office-workers $5-$6 per HOUR to stuff envelopes.
That would save you about $240 per hour per employee! But if
the scammer makes up some story about how he just has so much
mail to stuff, and that he doesn't have enough personnel to
stuff the envelopes, ask him why he doesn't just bring his
business to a direct mailing service. Direct mailing services
SPECIALIZE in bulk mailings. They can generate over
5000 stuffed envelopes per hour!! They have machines that can
do it real fast without the need for humans. And you can even
rent a machine like their's for as little as $400 per day, or
buy one for $15,000! That's a lot better than paying presumeably
hundreds, maybe thousands, of people you don't even know a
salary of $100,000 per year (a total of $100Million in
advertising costs to you!). Now, think about it! If a company
can afford to spend $100,000,000 to all of the people that
are just stuffing envelopes or mailing circulars PER YEAR,
then that company must be gigantic! But if it is a large
company, then it could afford the bulk-mailing equipment, and
it could afford hiring more personnel on a full-time basis to
cover it, which would mean that it would have no need for
home-workers stuffing their envelopes. Bzzzzt. Does not compute!
It must be a scam. Here's how it works: You are told to send a
SASE to the guy for FREE details. You get a little contract
back, telling you to send them $25 to get you started or because
they want to "weed out" those people that aren't serious. So you
send in the $25. You get back a few "circulars" or "reports"
which are just the same documents you saw when you replied to the
scammer's offer through the mail. The idea is that, yes, you
will be "stuffing envelopes", "processing mail" or "mailing our
circulars", but those envelopes that you stuff are the SASE's
that people send you asking for information on how to make
money after YOU advertise that they can be making tons of money
stuffing envelopes!! And "mailing our circulars" refers to the
same thing: you will be stuffing envelopes with that same scam
you got back from the scammer. Same thing with "processing mail"
at home. It's all just the same scam. It's basically the same
as the "report generation" scam I revealed above. If you read
something like, "Make $5.00 per envelope THAT YOU SECURE," then
you know what it means now. Read item "B" (above) for information
on the consequences of becoming a scammer.
E. "Assemble products at home" scam. This is becoming more
popular. You are told that you can have a modest income by
assembling toys or other consumer goods at home. This seems
like such a "real" job that it couldn't be a scam. Guess again.
Here's how the scam works: You send away for the FREE
information, and you get a little contract back stating that you
must send them $40 or so to get started. In turn, they are
supposed to send you your first toy to assemble. So you send
your $40 to them, and you soon get a small kit in the mail.
The kit does indeed contain parts of a toy that you can assemble.
After you assemble it, you're left wondering what to do next.
You think that you're supposed to send it back to the original
company and collect a paycheck or something, but in reality,
what you're supposed to do is sell the toy YOURSELF! YOU must
locate a buyer for the toy. And the toy probably doesn't look to
be worth more than a few dollars! So you've been had. To recap,
you purchased a $3 toy for $40, and to rub salt in the wound,
YOU had to assemble it yourself.
Another thing that they try to pull on you is that they will
screw up the parts in some way, either by leaving parts out or
by giving you parts that don't fit together. When you are unable
to assemble the product, you are told that it's your fault,
you will not get any refund, and you won't be able to submit the
toy back to them for your commission.
And I've heard of big-time scammers that used to do the
following with this: They ask for $40 for your start-up kit.
For that $40, you get your toy to assemble. Then they tell you
to send the toy back, and they will send you a check for
something like $50. So you've made $10. Next, you are told you
can now purchase two toys to assemble for just $50, now that
they know you're serious. So you send them $50, they send you
two toys, you send the assembled toys back, and you collect
$70. So now you're up $30. Then they make the big pitch to you,
"Just think. If you purchase 100 toys from us for just $2000,
you can make $1000!" So you send out your check for $2000, and
what do you get back? You might get some toys back, but either
they'll screw it up and blame it on you, or they might just take
off with your money. If you try to track them down and make them
pay you back, you might find that they have disappeared without
a trace. Beware. Know who you're dealing business with and
where they are.
F. "MLM's - Multi-Level Management companies" (AMWAY, for
example). These are usually not thought of as scams. AMWAY, for
example, is a very old and legitimate MLM. Here's how an MLM
works: Soeone approaches you with an amazing way to make money
part-time. It's usually your boss, a co-worker, a family member,
or a friend that approaches you with it, so you're instantly
lulled into a state of trust and acceptance. This person will
explain to you that this is "multi-level" management, which means
that there can usually be an infinite number of levels of
management. So you might have someone managing you in the
program, but you also might be managing one or more people, and
those people under you (your "down-lines") can each manage
their own people, etc. Each person in the "pyramid" is expected
to sell products that the MLM offers. The products could be
things like fruit baskets, VCR's, cuttlery, shoes, etc., but
it can also be long distance telephone service or insurance, for
example. When one of your down-lines makes a sale, your
down-line will make something like a 10% commission on the sale,
but YOU will make something like a 2% commission on the sale
as well, even though you did nothing. This way, the profits
trickle upwards in the pyramid. It may trickle as much as 5
levels upwards. You can imagine that if you have dozens of people
under you, and they each have dozens of people under them, each
making sales, then you're going to be a very wealthy person
eventually, without getting up from your chair! This is usually
why people join MLM's: the dream of untold riches by just
sitting back and doing nothing. Now for the real story: Let's
say you do join an MLM. You're making no money at first, you
have to pay the MLM yearly "dues", and on top of this, you
have a monthly quota to make in terms of sales that YOU
have to make. I've seen the monthly quota as low as $25.00
and as high as $500 in certain MLM's. When you sign the
contract, you are told that if you do not make that quota,
you're out of the program, all of your down-lines become your
manager's down-lines, and your yearly membership fee will not be
refunded. What usually happens is that you're hyped up so much
initially that you're able to make the first month's quotas by
selling products to your friends, family, and co-workers.
You have to harass these people in your life to be able to
sell your stuff, and if you keep using them, you'll eventually
alienate yourself from them. They aren't going to want to see
you after a while, because they know you're gonna try to convince
them all to become your down-lines or to buy your products.
Eventually, you will run out of people to sell stuff to, and you
probably have a few down-lines under you. Your manager says he
understands your dilemma, but convinces you to stay with it,
because you'll eventually see it start to pay off. Well, to
make your monthly quota, you have to buy some products
YOURSELF. And, when you're totally in denial, you fool yourself
into believing that you actually needed the products that you
bought, or that the products are better than any of the usual
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