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> >>> > >1) school dog cinema church
> >>> >
> >>> > Church... Church _never_ belongs.
> >>> >
> >>> Yes, but petrol bombs belong in churches. 
> >>Is it too much to ask that these kinds of EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE
> comments be 
> >>curtailed in an NG about figure skating, not religion or sick, 
> >>terrorist-leaning points of views?
> >
Tracy...

I notice that the original post concerning IQ testing (from which this
whole thread sprang) had no relevance to figure skating either... yet since
it did'nt shake up your saccharine viewpoint of the world you kept quiet
about that one...

In fact the original posting, which apparently was intended to record the
average IQ of fans of various different sports, could be construed as being
for more insulting.  Think about it....

My comments were an attempt to send up the IQ test, which appeared to me to
be a ridiculous farce.  Judging by the numerous satirical responses from
Mat Findlay, Barry Taylor etc, I am not the only one who thought so.

Surely you did not take my comments at face value?, taken as a whole, it
should be blatantly obvious that my posting was supposed to be humorous
(did you read all of it or immediately leap into a rabid PC frenzy as soon
as you saw the opening lines?).  Granted, my sense of humour is a little
twisted and not for everyone, but really, in the future should we all have
to put a little [JOKE] sign after every humorous comment we make, so that
everybody knows when to smile quietly to themselves?

I make no apologies for my comment, but despite my extreme antipathy for
Christianity (and most organised religion in general) I would not go so far
as to throw a petrol bomb into a church (killing a few misguided souls
would only gain sympathy for the church and not effect the real villains-
the upper church heirachy).  And after all, would I be stupid enough to
advertise the event to potentially thousands of people over the internet
with my E-mail address so splendidly available?

Your comment about the inherent `sickness' of terrorism is a biased
statement.  There are instances where terrorism MAY be justified.  If I
lived in a totalitarian society I might be inclined to conduct terrorist
acts with a view to overthrow that society... But now we are delving into
an argument of subjectivism/objectivism of which I doubt you would really
want to get into....

> >I find organized religion to be offensive... Keep in mind that there's
> >more than just _your_ opinion around here.
> 
Yes, wise words from Mat.  Bear in mind that, since most of us live in a
country where free speech is permitted (I am assuming that this is the case
for everybody involved in this dispute), everybody is allowed to voice
their opinion, no matter how incendiary that opinion may appear to be. 
Otherwise we are censoring free speech are we not?

Mildred...

> Yes, well I don't agree with atheists but I don't talk about throwing
> bombs at their meetings. No matter what your opinion, you should
> approach things from a civilized point of view and not say inflamitory

There are times when inflammitory statements are necessary, there are times
when people need to be shaken from their complacency...

> things like "I don't agree with your point of view so you should all be
> blown up." 

Funny, that is how most religious fundamentalists would go about it....

If I was in a legitimate intellectual argument, I would argue rationally on
a point by point basis without resorting to open abuse and violence (as I
have done in this post, though this discussion is not exactly
intellectual).

If I am attempting humour, or see something as patently ridiculous, I will
most likely respond with an outrageous exaggeration of my own opinions and
satirize the whole affair (as I did with the post that caused all this
furour, funny how so many people have no sense of irony is'nt it?)
 
> That's what seperates humans from lower forms of life (like
> terrorists).
> 
And by the way, you are kidding yourself if you believe that the human race
is at all civilized... at least not in the sense that you are inferring....

> And anyway, why are you posting to this newsgroup? This isn't
> alt.politics or whatever...   
> 
The IQ test (the original posting to which I responded, did anybody
actually see it?) was blatantly irrelevant to your newsgroup as well, but
you did not see fit to comment on that....

So in pursuing the we have all contributed to this little spam hav'nt we?

Robert
-- 
"...the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who
are mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything
at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a
commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous
yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the
stars..."
                              -Jack Kerouac