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Started by Venger
Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:36
Help with VLAN and 3Com 3300 Switch
Author: Venger
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:36
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:36
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Have a client with a 3Com 3300 switch...they are trying to create a number of VLAN's that tier into a single port...i.e. Port 1 - VLAN 1,2,3,4 Port 2-4 - VLAN 1 Port 5-7 - VLAN 2 Port 8-10 - VLAN 3 Port 11-13 - VLAN 4 So that Port 1 appears on all VLAN's, but traffic is isolated from the VLAN's to each other. This would allow a server for instance to reside here, or a router, etc... Thing is, this doesn't seem to work on the 3Com. If you assign a port to more than one, it cannot see anything except in it's first VLAN. Is this by design? Would it require the optional 3Com Layer-3 switching module to properly work? Even though it's a new switch, 3Com will not help saying they need a service contract - pretty cruddy huh, especially on new gear. Any help would be appreciated...email replies especially... Thanks, Venger
Re: Help with VLAN and 3Com 3300 Switch
Author: mortimer_mouse
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:49
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:49
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In article <dMt56.168671$IP1.6051312@news1.giganews.com>, "Venger" <Venger@augustmail.com> wrote: > Have a client with a 3Com 3300 switch...they are trying to create a number > of VLAN's that tier into a single port...i.e. > > Port 1 - VLAN 1,2,3,4 > Port 2-4 - VLAN 1 > Port 5-7 - VLAN 2 > Port 8-10 - VLAN 3 > Port 11-13 - VLAN 4 > > So that Port 1 appears on all VLAN's, but traffic is isolated from the > VLAN's to each other. This would allow a server for instance to reside here, > or a router, etc... > > Thing is, this doesn't seem to work on the 3Com. If you assign a port to > more than one, it cannot see anything except in it's first VLAN. > > Is this by design? Would it require the optional 3Com Layer-3 switching > module to properly work? > > Even though it's a new switch, 3Com will not help saying they need a service > contract - pretty cruddy huh, especially on new gear. > > Any help would be appreciated...email replies especially... > > Thanks, > > Venger > > The way 3Com equipment works (if I remember rightly) is this: If you define a port to be a member of multiple VLANs, then you have effectively defined it as an 802.1q trunk with the complication that the first-defined VLAN is untagged. This is the "native" VLAN for this port. Therefore any traffic which is received without 802.1q encapsulation on that port is inferred to be a member of its native VLAN and propagated out on other ports as necessary for the VLAN. Likewise, any traffic received on any other port for the native VLAN is propagated out of the trunk port untagged, if necessary. Other VLAN traffic is propagated out of the port using 802.1q encapulation, which is not normally understood by end stations. The way to achieve what you are aiming at is to define the port as a trunk port using 802.1q encapsulation on all its associated VLANs - including the native one - and only using devices hanging off this port which understand 802.1q encapsulation. A number of network cards and operating systems are capable of supporting 802.1q, including NT, Netware and Linux, and Intel and 3Com cards. However, be aware that not all NICs have 802.1q-capable drivers for all operating systems. Check compatibility matrices carefully. An alternative - and more conventional - approach would also be to use a router (i.e. layer 3 card) to route between VLANs, but it's not strictly necessary for the problem you describe. In fact it has the potential disadvantage that you will end up enabling routing between all the VLANs and potentially introduce a security issue (which you may have to address using access control filters), whereas the system you describe will only allow inter-connection between the server VLAN and all the others. Hope this helps... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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