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Article #2Re: A pyramid chain letter scheme.
From: Perce P. Cassidy
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:57
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:57
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I believe that it was on Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:33:51 -0500, that Brian D. Gifford wrote: > Okay I am going to shoot right from the hip here. > > I found this message in a newsgroup, and of course it caught my eye. It was > one of those get rich quick schemes that we see or hear about quite often. I > actually read it, thought about it, and thought some more, and then > researched it. Well, what I found out is these scams are usually quite > illegal. They try give you an out by saying that all the mail you receive > that has cash is for a mail list. Ummm yeah. > > I have here three (3) sites for you to peruse on the legalities of these > schemes: > > 1. Is for Cornell's online US Code listing. You can find the actual laws > here that are quoted by the scammers, that are actually true laws. The area > for the specific laws is in the second link to title 18 part I chapter 63 > MAIL FRAUD. > > http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ > http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_63.html > > 2. Is the United Postal services website and their page on chain letters, > which also references the US Code above. > > http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm > > 3. A decent site on other get rich quick schemes and other follies that use > the internet. Has some great links to follow to track down all of those > scams you hear about and always wondered "How good are they?". > > http://www.stopspam.org/ > > > Now after reading up on all of these things I notice something. They all > pertain to sending items in the mail. > > This new one I read about actually thought a loop hole on the legal side as > far as I can tell. > > It does NOT at any time use the United States Postal Service. > > What you do is set an account at PayPal http://www.paypal.com which is a > secure money transaction site affiliated with eBay. You put six (6) dollars > in that account. You use either a credit card or even a bank account. > > You then take the list of email addresses (usually six (6)) sent with the > chain letter, and through PayPal send cash (one (1) dollar) to those email > addresses. You then erase the top name on the list and add the yours at the > bottom. > What you just did was send cash to their PayPal account that is referenced > by that email address. > > You then distribute the new letter with your name at the bottom of the list > to some number of news groups or email friends with it. > > The way they catch you with the idea is thinking that the next people in the > line will send you their one (1) dollar. > Well as I see no obvious legal repercussions (I may be mistaken), I am > giving it a try. > > I tried to find as many facts and use them the way they were meant. What I > found is that doing this stuff by snail mail is illegal. E-mail is not. > > Well, the email addresses I got off of the letter were these guys here. Mine > is at the bottom. And yes I actually sent one (1) dollar American cash to > these people's PayPal accounts (not mine of course I did take the fist name > off and mine at the bottom). > > 1. kbmybaby@hotmail.com > > 2. yourwebsiteprofits@yahoo.com > > 3. advanced_laptop@hotmail.com > > 4. Schnoor@hco.kollegienet.dk > > 5. dtinc88@hotmail.com > > 6. timefade@611.com > > If you have found a problem in the legality of this posting / e-mail please > notify the poster / sender. Multi-level Marketing, Pyramid and Matrix Programs You may not use PayPal to send or receive payments for any form of multi-level marketing programs (including online payment randomizers), as well as matrix, pyramid and Ponzi schemes, "get rich quick" scheme, or other similar ventures. http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside&ed=rich_quick http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside
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