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In article <Dox2A9.ELx@eskimo.com> wizkidm@eskimo.com (J. Michael Phillips) writes:
>From: wizkidm@eskimo.com (J. Michael Phillips)
>Subject: Re: I am requesting assistance for college.
>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:01:13 GMT

>***SIGH***

>Pretty sad commentary on Public Schools . . . I went to a Private
>University, and graduated in 3 1/2 years with a BS AND a BA . . . 

> . . . I held 2 full-time and 1 part-time jobs, maintained sufficient
>grades to hold a scholarship . . . and (oddly enough) it never
>occurred to me to beg for money from complete strangers.  Even my
>scholarship was brought to me, I did NOT go looking for it . . . 

>I guess it's true, either the public universities are but a pale
>imitation of REAL universities, or this guy needs to stop by Sears,
>and buy himself some intestinal fortitude . . . Can I hear comments
>from my State University Brothers?  Which do YOU think it is?

>:) :) :)



Oh PLEASE!!!!!! REAL Universities????? Goes to show what they teach at private 
colleges - pathetic pretentiousness!  First of all, you were very lucky not to 
have to "Look" for a scholarship, don't ever go to grad school or you'll find 
out that one must ALWAYS go begging for money - it's just done in different 
ways.  Ok, the guy begging from strangers was pretty sad - he should 1) get a 
better part-time job than Burger King, 2) sell his car, 3)go looking through 
the loads of financial aid books for scholarships. But as for your pathetic 
reply, I see all you learned at private school was to to look down your 
nose at those less fortunate.
While "state" schools vary in quality, so do private schools. I went to the 
University of California, and found it to be a REAL University, also an 
introduction to the real world, where students aren't pampered (unless they've 
got rich parents, which I don't). As for private schools, I am now at Yale as 
a grad student. 1) it is FAR from the "REAL" world. 2) as a grad student and 
an academic, one must constantly write grants (ie "beg" for money) to get your 
research funded. It never ends unless you go into private business where you 
don't have to beg as along as you push sales.  3) at $20K + per year tuition 
the undergrads pay, I feel I got a total bargain at  the UC (<$2000 per year). 

I often hear from people here who went to Princeton, Harvard, Yale as 
undergrdas who say " If I went to a state school, I would've gotten better 
grades." WRONG! At Yale, an average is given as a "B", and very few fail, not 
because they are superior, Yale just sets its curve higher. In comparison, at 
a UC, an average grade (ie the mean of the test scores) is given a "C", 
allowing a fair amount to fail or retake the class. An "A" is very hard to 
get, even a B is not so easy. Same type of exam, just a decision by the 
faculty on how to set the grading. 

If the IVY league is any example, then private universities are no more "real" 
than any state school!