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Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision

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From: Hithere
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <6g6usb$gai$2@news.sas.ab.ca>, jkodish@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:

>Rail all you want, but we are closer to democracy as a result.
>

Okay--since you are such a supporter of *democracy uber alles*, try bending 
your mind around these two scenarios....

Scene #1: You and two other people declare yourselves to be an autonomous 
democratic collective--and you decide that all disputes will be decided by a 
vote--majority rules. The other two people decide to kill you. Using 
*democratic theory,* defend your life. (hint: in order to defend your life 
_on_principle_ you *must* resort to arguments based on the rights of 
the individual as being _superior_ to those of a democratic collective)

Scene #2: Majority rule is based on the premise that individuals will not, of 
their own accord and without coercion, do the right thing; therefore it is 
necessary that the majority elect a government.

Well, if individuals will not do the right thing--are not smart enough or 
morally correct enough to make the proper choices--how is it that a number of 
them will magically gain the wisdom to do so and elect a legitimate and fair 
government?

Conversely, if you argue that people _will_make the right decision as 
individuals, why is it necessary to use the democratic method of majority 
compulsion?

Ron
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From: HiThere@outtatown.com (Hithere)
Subject: Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision
Date: 1998/04/05
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