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Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision

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From: Norman Gall
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <6g8hd9$v2u$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
commandr@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Mr. "Professor"

Nice ad hominem.

>         You asked why I have a different point of view.  For one thing,
the quotes
> you put at the end of your posts, for instance from Oscar Wilde, and Mr.
> Huxley are those who I frankly disagree with.

Sure, but your reasoning as to why is noticeably missing.

>         As for why, I do not subscribe to the view of logic explaining
everything.

Neither do I - logic explains nothing.  But an explanation that does not
conform to the dictates of logic isn't an explanation.

Perhaps your misconceptions of what logic is supposed to do is at the
ehart of your misunderstanding.

> I have seen enough to know that there are phenomena that defy explanations,
> yet they are real.  

Sure there are such phenomena - however, logic has nothing to do with it.

> Qualities like patriotism, and the deep love that is shown
> between a man and his [sic] woman.

You left out he love a father has for his child, but these *defy*
explanation?  Boy, do you have a problem - perhaps a lack of imagination
or insight. I have experienced (and continue to experience) all of these
things and can explain them perfectly well to myself and those around me
who haven't experienced them.

That which is ineffable in the sense you seem to be talking about cannot
even be named.

>         So keep this in mind, Mr. Ivory Tower occupant, 

While I work there, what makes you think I *live* there?

> while theories rise 
> and then end up being de-bunked, that which is real and unexplainable will 
> still be around.

Pretty anti-intellectual of you, but you seem to fundamentally
misunderstand the nature of logic, science, human experience, and
explanation.

Norm Gall

-- 
"Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools, and the 
 beacons of wise men."                         T.H. Huxley
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From: gall@uwinnipeg.ca (Norman Gall)
Subject: Re: News Release: Delwin Vriend Supreme Court Decision
Date: 1998/04/05
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