🚀 go-pugleaf

Norman Gall wrote:
> commodore-lars@geocities.com wrote:

> > Do I need to?  Studies show that without BOTH a mother and father
> > figure, that child rearing suffers as a result.
> 
> "Studies"! Cite them.  I can trot out 10 that show that homosexual couples
> rear just as well-adjusted and actually *more* successful children than
> heterosexual couples.

Then you'd better tell the homosexual lobbies.  They tried desperately
to find some, and were forced to publicly conclude none exist.

Meanwhile, 300+ studies show the flaws of parenting not reared under a
mother and father.

> > Tell that to the Scouts or Boys & Girls Club.  Or WORSE, tell it to the
> > parents of the poor kids who are molested because of this ruling.
> 
> Yawn. More unsubstantiated claims.

Hardly.  Scouts Canada and other youth groups are already concerned
about the difficulty in weeding out homosexual predators thanks to "gay
rights".

Another Graham James is the sure result.

> > That's what was used to dispel the critics of the legalization of
> > sodomy.  No, it wasn't going to lead to gay rights, it was just getting
> > the state out of the nation's bedrooms.
> 
> More idiocy.

Can't refute it, huh?

> They can assert all they want, but you know as well as I do (and this is
> what makes your argument so damn offensive) is that sex with children is
> objectionable on the grounds that children cannot enter into consensual
> sex acts.

Tell that to homosexual lobby groups, who don't have any trouble
participating in events with the Man-Boy love association.

If you're really in the mood to be sickened, you can go to
http://www.paranoia.com/~theslurp/home.html

> You can fire someone on the grounds that they watch TV? I think you'd
> better study a little labour law before you keep shooting off your mouth.

You most certainly can.  Don't like somebody's attitude, or dress, or
anything, and you can not hire them AND fire them.

> > I see.  First you want to see the torturous reasoning.  Then you refer
> > to drivel the fact that 3% of the population makes up 35% of our
> > pedophiles.

> I challenge your statistics.... as you knew I would.  It is more like 10%
> and 10%. But it was a nice try.

Yes, and it is correct...you aren't.

The 10% myth is just that, a myth.  Even the author of the study himself
(Kinsey) admits it was flawed, using only the prison population rather
than the general population.  Additionally, his figure wasn't even 10%. 
The "Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy" and "Psychological Reports"
both reported that gays make up 1-3% of the male population (and has
been confirmed by numerous studies over the past few years, for example
the Battelle Human Affairs Research Centers in Seattle which found 2.3%
of American men report having sex with another man, while 1.1% consider
themselves exclusively homosexual.

ANYBODY claiming the 10% figure, as you just did, is either dishonest or
naive.

Also JMST reported that that 35% of all male pedophiles are homosexual,
and in 1992 reported that heterosexual pedophiles commit an average of
20 acts while homosexual pedophiles commit an average of 150.  So much
for 10-10.  The 3-35 figure holds true.  Gay men are about 12 times more
likely to be pedophiles than heterosexual men.

(That was certainly easy enough to disprove)

> Well that lesson is only apparent if you fail to learn from history and
> invent your own facts.

Like the 10% myth, huh?

--
Lars Ormberg
(I don't know where Mr. T lives...stop phoning my home)    (___)
                                                           (o o)
- I'm a genuine, certified, dixie fried, full of    /-------\ /
          pride, 'til I die pure bred redneck!     / |     ||O
            					  *  ||,---||
mailto:larso@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca                     ^^    ^^
mailto:commodore-lars@geocities.com

The University of Lars  http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/larso/
"The Grateway"   http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/polysci/grateway.htm
Lars Across the Globe Campain
                 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/5847/

Drew:So who all goes to these conventions anyway?
Lewis:Well, most of them are Trekkies like us, but then there are
	a few Star Wars and Babylon 5 fans there too.
Oswald:Yeah, like that's real.
						"The Drew Carey Show"