🚀 go-pugleaf

Why don't you sell your story to the *News Media* TV,Radio,Newspapers ?
I'm sure they would love to run with your story. Except the N.Gas part, as
Atco doesn't make any money off the Gas itself, except from a small company
they are affiliated with in ownership,otherwise they sell the gas at cost.
 What bothers me is they had no foresight to buy gas like the Ontario
companies did, which is at a reduced price compared to atco's price here in
Alberta.
M/C
Santa Claws



"bill w" <billisnever@home.com> wrote in message
news:zC716.245970$76.5579732@news1.rdc1.ab.home.com...
> So... all the hubbub over the price of power in Alberta is bullshit. The
> lack of facilities to generate power is bullshit.
>
> I was a power lineman for Trans Alta - Transmission - I also was a
> Telecommunications Microwave Tower Tech - and had to service all grid
> communications at all facilities around Alberta...
>
> Here is what was happening at the time, and I don't recall hearing any
> changes since 1995
>
> Edmonton Power - or whatever they call themselves now - had generators
> turning in their natural gas plants without the power distribution
switches
> closed into the grid - they do this because the armatures of the
generators
> are so heavy they bend under their own weight unless they are turning...
> They were also doing this at the time - in Genesee. If you remember -
there
> wasn't the demand for the power - but they can't leave the armatures in
the
> box or they bend... so they had to go into the floor and turn with the
> switches open
>
> Genesee also had holes in the floor to expand a further 2 or 3 more
> generation units...I think they built the plant with 5 in mind.... all the
> necessary facilities were in place in the transmission network to
facilitate
> these new generators. The power lines were built to handle 500,000 volts -
1
> million volts but many are operating at only 250,000 !!!
>
> Shearness - east of Calgary also had room for another generator in its
> facility - what's happened there ? Again the distribution network is there
> already. Did another "genny"  go into the floor? I don't think so.
>
> Alberta natural gas Cochrane - or ANG as it is called, could also generate
> power to the grid - as could MANY other plants - with mobile power
plants -
> ready to run - from General Electric... These generators are apx 2 million
> NOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS !    and are ready to plug into the grid at the
gas
> plant substation facilities that are already in place.
>
> Each of these generators could power a small town of 50,000 people !!!
>
> ANG Cochrane - which represented 2% of Trans-Alta's system load -
threatened
> to do exactly what I just said , 4  years ago - unless TAU guaranteed
their
> power rates ! They were going to consume what they needed and put the rest
> on the grid - this was going to be done with waste gas.... HMMM
>
> Then there is the Americans that we are supplying !  YES that's right - WE
> ACTUALLY HAVE AN ABUNDANCE THAT IS SENT SOUTH  on 1201 line from
Langdon...
> I think that if we have shortages at home , shouldn't we cut back on our
> exports ? RATHER THAN KICK THE SHIT OUT OF ALBERTANS - " OH GEE WE ARE
> RUNNING SHORT ON FACILITIES AND POWER - SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE
THE
> PRICE....."
>
> Then there is natural gas, I've got a great story about the new
pipelines -
> funny how the price of natural gas shot up as soon as the pipelines opened
> isn't it ??? The Americans - willing to pay more - because of their own
> power problems down east- use the gas for their manufacturing facilities
and
> power generation. NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY ,MORE FOR THE GAS -
> ATCO DOESNT WANT TO SELL IT TO US - UNLESS WE PAY THE SAME AS THE
AMERICANS!
>
> SORRY FOLKS ! WE PAID TAXES AND ENERGY RATES TO BUILD THAT FUCKIN GAS
> PIPELINE - AND NOW THEY ARE PUTING THE SCREWS TO US !!!!!
>
> So, what are we as Albertans going to do ???? Sit here and take this shit?
>
> I am sick and tired of these lies, I am sick and tired of paying energy
fees
> and taxes to build facilities to feed the Americans while we get fucked. I
> am sick an tired of the utilities feeding us this bullshit, deregulation.
> The only reason deregulation came about was to allow  this pipeline shit
to
> happen. AND to also mislead - re direct the blame...
>
> These assholes are running us straight into a recession - it will be
deeper
> than ever!  And this time - not just the banks will be profiteering - it
> will be the utilities too!
>
>
>
>
>
>

> So... all the hubbub over the price of power in Alberta is bullshit. The
> lack of facilities to generate power is bullshit.

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Intriguing. Like most Albertans, I know jack squat about the costs and
issues involved in power distribution, although I have heard a similar story
to yours from an ex-employee of Enmax. Bill, have you taken this to the
Alberta Legislature? Document every contact attempt you make, then, if you
get no action, take the issue to your Alliance MP. I imagine A-Channel would
be dying to hear about this serious issue, and you seem to have a good pulse
on the industry.

I'm willing to help you prepare a plan of attack, especially if
corruption/palm-greasing in the provincial or federal government is
involved.

Santa.