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Deacon:

 Just as acupressure and acupunture have become widely accepted in North
> > America (did I mention Reflexology??) so will magnetic technology
because
> > like the other unorthodox oriental methods, it works!!
>
> Define 'works'. If you are in a roundabout way saying you are unaware of
how
> suggestible and easily mislead we humans are, I can understand why you
think
> a therapy that cannot possibly operate by the principles ascribed to it
can
> 'work'.

Whoops, you offer no facts whatsoever to back up your claim that "a therapy
that cannot possibly operate by the principles ascribed to it can 'work'."

Well, in human trials you are absolutely correct.  That is why we do
demonstrations on horses and other animals, this eliminates the "placebo"
element entirely. Unlike "suggestible and easily mislead ... humans",
animals have no concept of the "false" effect and have not the mental
capacity to be fooled into thinking something works, for them it either
works or it doesn't.

I would be pleased to act as your host at our next animal demonstration so
you can see for yourself this stuff "works".  By the way, you may describe
this as "therapy" but if you re-read my notes you will discover I make NO
CLAIMS of any medical kind whatsoever and neither do chiropractors or
acupunturists etc but people still go because for them that particular
method of relief "works".  Again, your skeptism may one day be your own
undoing and you will never understand any of these methods until you open
your mind and examine them properly for yourself and stop making decisions
on these supplementary methods based on "what you have heard".  I find I
have to remind most people they have a mind of their own and it is possible
others as well meaning as they may be, could be wrong.  Just because a
certain medication did not work for Aunt Martha or Uncle Brian does not mean
it will not work for you, ask your pharmacist for stories along that line,
they have plenty of them.

Let me introduce a new thought here.  Watching TV lately has brought a new
sense of awarness to me regarding medications which we must ingest.  Lately,
I have watched pharmacutical companies begin advertising on TV and while
they tell you in the first 15 seconds how wonderful this new "drug" is they
spend the last 45 seconds telling you it could cause neausea, blood clots,
heart pulpitations, dizziness, ulcers and any of a thousand other negative
side effects.  Now let me ask you, would you rather take something whose
side effects may be worse than the disease you already have OR would you
rather put on something that has no record at present of negative side
effects yet helps you experience the same relief without the possible side
effects?  Did you know the third leading cause of death in the US in 1998
was negative interdrug reactions?
SCARY ISN'T IT!!!

For some people and maybe you are one, no matter what I or anyone else say
you will remain the absolute skeptic until you yourself are in a position
where you are desperate enough to try anything to get relief.

Do yourself a favour and the rest of us too, do not accept your skepticism
UNTIL you have proven it is well founded with your own research.  Then and
only then will you have some factual data to back up why you feel the way
you do then we can have an intelligent discussion based on facts and not
"feelings" or heresay.

Wishing everyone a healthy, happy summer...

Robert King
King & Associates International

P.S.  I have no quams about anyone contacting me directly regarding your
questions.  If you would prefer direct contact as opposed to reading all of
this dribble in the newsgroups, please direct your questions via email to me
at kai@5pillars.com and put "questions" in the subject line.  Thank you.

Deacon <deacon_227@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:B59570B3.830A%deacon_227@my-deja.com...
> Headers trimmed to relevant newsgroups.
>
>
>
> in article 396dd5c0_6@news.oanet.com, King & Associates Int'l at
> kai@5pillars.com  whispered on  7/13/00 8:44 AM:
>
> > Just as acupressure and acupunture have become widely accepted in North
> > America (did I mention Reflexology??) so will magnetic technology
because
> > like the other unorthodox oriental methods, it works!!
>
> Define 'works'. If you are in a roundabout way saying you are unaware of
how
> suggestible and easily mislead we humans are, I can understand why you
think
> a therapy that cannot possibly operate by the principles ascribed to it
can
> 'work'.
>
>
> http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/miscon.html
>
> <quote>
>
> Misconception #2: Personal experience is the best way to tell whether
> something works. When you feel better after having used a product or
> procedure, it is natural to give credit to whatever you have done. This
can
> be misleading, however, because most ailments resolve themselves and those
> that don't can have variable symptoms. Even serious conditions can have
> sufficient day-to-day variation to enable quack methods to gain large
> followings. In addition, taking action often produces temporary relief of
> symptoms (a placebo effect). For these reasons, controlled scientific
> studies are usually necessary to establish whether health methods actually
> work.
>
> <end quote>
>
>
> Further reading...
>
> http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/quackvul.html
>
> Since most people find proper diet and exercise a chore, they are eager
for
> magical cures.
>
>
> >
> > So, put your money where your mouth is.  I challenge you to try it for
> > yourself and open your mind to the possibility you could be mistaken, I
> > guess you could be forgiven since you were brought up in a "close
minded"
> > society.
>
>
> Reference any long term double-blind scientific study carried out by
> competent professionals that backs up any claims made for so-called
magnetic
> therapy. The onus is on you to produce evidence for it's efficacy.
>
> I have no intention of lining the pockest of snake-oil salesmen to find
out
> what I already suspect.
>
>
> --
>
> Deacon
>
> "By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains
> drop out." -- Richard Dawkins
>
>
>
>