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From: John Fleming
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:00
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King & Associates Int'l <kai@5pillars.com> wrote in message
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> Deacon:
[snip]
> Well, in human trials you are absolutely correct. That is why we do
> demonstrations on horses and other animals, this eliminates the
"placebo"
> element entirely. Unlike "suggestible and easily mislead ...
humans",
> animals have no concept of the "false" effect and have not the
mental
> capacity to be fooled into thinking something works, for them it
either
> works or it doesn't.
The problem with animal trials is that animals can respond to a
treatment differently than human beings. For example, while morphine
dulls human senses, it excites cats (Give me an hour or two in the
library, and I should be able to track down the ancient issue of Omni
magazine I read that in).
In fact, I believe the correct procedure with people to compensate for
the placebo effect is to test the treatment with two groups--one given
the actual treatment, and the other given a placebo. A double blind
adds to the effectiveness because the person dealing directly with the
test subjects isn't aware of who's getting the placebo and who isn't.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Alberta
email: johnfgh@nice.ab.ca (nice should be ecn, remove 'gh')
web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/6070
http://www.ecn.ab.ca/~johnf
- Only if you have been in the deepest valley can you
ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest
mountain.
R.M.Nixon 1913-1994
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