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9 total messages Started by Ken_Nielsen Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:16
Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#138
Author: Ken_Nielsen
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:16
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I have seen this pop up several times in the last week, on the net, on power point presentations. Someone in the audience at the power point presentation yelled "It's a PC problem."

Anyway, here it Is:

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Can anyone here identify the cause of this anomaly?
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
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Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:00
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There is always some idiot in the audience who will yell stupid things about the issue being a PC problem or a Macintosh problem ...

Without seeing the actual PowerPoint presentation file as well as the fonts involved, a definitive diagnosis cannot be provided. Having said that, instinct would suggest that the problem is associated with cross-platform differences in characters sets used by PowerPoint and/or differences in the fonts between the platforms. This is exactly why using PowerPoint files as opposed to a PDF file (with all fonts embedded) created from the PowerPoint file for an actual presentation is not a particularly good idea.

One of the problems is that PowerPoint on Windows and PowerPoint on Macintosh handle fonts and character sets differently. PowerPoint on Windows has used Unicode encoding for a number of years; I believe that PowerPoint 2008 on the Macintosh is the first Mac version to support Unicode, at least for new documents.

- Dov
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
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Author: Ken_Nielsen
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:25
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Thanks Dov,

Good information to know.

Ken
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#144
Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:31
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Well, using a PowerPoint file and fonts on the same computer the presentation was created on is relatively safe... it's when you move that file without the fonts that you start really asking for trouble.

T
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#145
Author: Ken_Nielsen
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:27
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"it's when you move that file without the fonts that you start really asking for trouble."

Seems like it might be a good idea to have PowerPoint have a 'Package' option to gather up links and fonts for the purpose of moving the presentation to other platforms.
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#146
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:27
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Interesting that the OP sees a rectangle/square shape as a triangle, though. ;)
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#147
Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:06
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Actually, it is probably better described as a "diamond" shape. That unusual character is probably the .notdef character defined in that particular font for use to substitute for undefined glyphs.

- Dov
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
#148
Author: Ken_Nielsen
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:21
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Yes, it is a diamond. I stand corrected.
Re: Ubiquitous question mark in triangle shape
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Author: Ken_Nielsen
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:58
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"particular font for use to substitute for undefined glyphs."

Good response.
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