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Started by Laura_Wilson
Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:04
I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Laura_Wilson
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:04
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:04
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Hi. My archived graphic work from several years ago includes a lot of ITC Franklin Gothic and Franklin Gothic Condensed. I bought the ITC font from Adobe by way of Type on Call about ten years ago. The Condensed family was a freebie that came with ATM or Illustrator back then. Through all kinds of upgrades now where I am is this: Desktop G4, OS 10.3.9, Adobe CS from 2004 (Indesign 3.0.1, etc.). I also have a laptop G4, OS 10.4.8. And Adobe has discontinued Franklin Gothic. From time to time one or another of those old graphics can be really useful to me, but it's been at least a couple of years since I've tried to retrieve one. Now, on the Desktop G4, when I open the old file in InDesign I get the messages that FG not found. I try to keep all my fonts (including those in Library/ApplicationSupport/Adobe) in my (not user) Library/Fonts folder, with the exception of those that Mac puts inthe system folder. (Also I leave the one labeled Req'd in appSupport/Adobe.) Otherwise I have a folder in Laura's Stuff where I have an old back up of a font organization I used back in the days of ATM. That's where I find Franklin Gothic and ITC FG. The problem: On my desktop computer in a Finder window, when I look at the font files, the Type 1 postscript outline fonts, the icon is all messed up. If I look in Icon view it looks like a disk drive thingie. The suitcase file icon isn't messed up. What does this mean and what can I do about it? When I look at the same files on my G4 laptop OS10.4 the icons are not messed up. When I take the files to my service bureau they have the nice red A on their Franklin Gothics. My laptop doesn't even have that, no doubt the service bureau has font managing software. I respect licenses, Adobe is my source, I need the font, it looks "better" on the laptop. What do I do? I'm thinking I could ask the service bureau to give me a copy of their postscript FG. But how will it work on the 10.3.9 desktop? The immediate specific is that I want to place the old file in an Indesign layout for a new publicity brochure for myself. Do I ignore the font alerts on my computer and just take the layout to the service bureau where the brochure will be printed? That's my plan for the day. Does font managing software fix old timer fonts up if they've gotten wrinkled through system updates? If Adobe has abandoned FG would font mgmt software do any good? Or should I buy 10.4 for my desktop G4, what assurance is there then? I didn't know which Topic to choose for my forum question. I hope for some level headed advice! Thanks, LW
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Laura_Wilson
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:25
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:25
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I'm trying to figure out how to subscribe, mark all as read, still get my topic subscribed to.
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:36
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 04:36
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And Adobe has discontinued Franklin Gothic.
Urm, not actually true. Adobe still sells Franklin Gothic, in both Type 1 and OpenType CFF formats. You can get either the ITC designs or the "regular" ones from Adobe.
Anyway, if you're licensed for it on both computers, why not just copy the files from your laptop to your desktop machine?
Regards,
T
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:11
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:11
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Laura, Thomas has pretty much simplified the font issues for you. As for subscription questions, if they aren't apparent when you click on "Bookmark" below your post, please ask in the Forum Comments area. Also, (aside from migrating from PostScript Type 1 over to OpenType), the only fonts that come to mind that Adobe has dropped are Berthold foundry fonts (although there may be a few others). Thanks. Neil
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Laura_Wilson
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:51
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:51
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To Thomas and Niel, Thanks for answers! I kept fiddling with the fonts and the two computers after my post. Here's where I am: I did find enough old folders I call "stuff to go" where I'd copied the fonts to send to service bureaus so that I found what were evidently good enough originals to get my desktop set up. That is, I copied the font families into my Library/fonts folder then I checked them in Font Book and sure enough they worked, demi's obliques italics and all. Thank Heavens! But a lingering problem, minor but disturbing, is that the icons are still messed up. When they're little they look like colored confetti, when they're big they look like the disk drive thingie. The files that are deteriorated like this are the LWFN postscript Type 1 outline fonts. The Suitcase font icons are not messed up. And it's not only Franklin gothic, it's ALL the postscript fonts, whether they are in my Library/Font folder or elsewhere. All this on the Desktop G4. And, Thomas, I initiated this topic because I had just talked with Adobe and was told quite firmly that Franklin Gothic had been discontinued. Check it out. I'll try again too. But still, is it a Mac issue or an Adobe issue? Used to be a "rebuild the desktop." Let's see osx... I left it all on so I could check on this correspondence. Off we go Thanks friends, see you after reboot.
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Laura_Wilson
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:53
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:53
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The reboot fixed my icons. So all my problems solved, except the lingering worry that my Franklin Gothics might not be replaceable. Haven't been to check on that yet. Thanks friends!
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:14
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:14
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Laura, Time for some computer maintenance, I suspect. Boot off your install DVD and run Disk Utility. Repair permissions and hard drive. Do similar with Disk Warrior. Finally, run Cocktail. Neil
Re: I think this is a Mac issue but what do I tell them?
Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:45
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:45
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And, Thomas, I initiated this topic because I had just talked with Adobe and was told quite firmly that Franklin Gothic had been discontinued. Check it out. Having been doing fonts here at Adobe for a decade now, I'm pretty sure. But of course, I never gave my job title in my email, so you had no reason to take my word for it. :) Anyway, here is where you'll find them: <http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/browser_F.html> If you want Type 1 instead of OpenType, drill down to the specific font package, and look at the lower right for a "related PostScript Type 1 package" link. Cheers, T Thomas Phinney Product Manager Fonts & Global Typography Adobe Systems
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