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Article #2509Re: How to tell font type and other font questions
From: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:00
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:00
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> I'm assuming I should see a separate listing for AGaramond italic, Why are you assuming that? Try formatting some text in AGaramond with Angle set to Regular. Now format some text next to it in AGaramond with Angle set to Italic. Are you getting true Adobe Garamond italic? (Hint: check a lower case a or f--the letterforms are completely different.) Here's how my Adobe Garamond family breaks down: AGaramond-Regular (gdrg____.pfm, .pfb) AGaramond-Italic (gdi_____.pfm, .pfb) AGaramond-Semibold (gdsb____.pfm, .pfb) AGaramond-SemiboldItalic (gdsbi___.pfm, .pfb) These four show in Frame as one family: "AGaramond". To get ital, bold, and bold ital, you have to change angle and weight. AGaramond-Bold (gdb_____.pfm, .pfb) AGaramond-BoldItalic (gdbi____.pfm, .pfb) These two show in Frame as one family: "AGaramond Bold". To get bold, you have to change weight. In addition to those six weights (in two families), I also have 13 more AGaramond expert fonts that would show up in (I think) seven families. I don't have them installed right now. The important point is that in Frame's list of fonts you should be seeing a list of font *families*, not individual variants. You could very easily have 21 fonts showing in eight families. This naming system does not always seem logical. Often they're offset: Regular, Italic, Bold, and Bold Italic in the first family and Demibold and Demibold Italic in the second family. Futura, for instance, has (at least) 12 fonts in 4 families: The Futura family has Book, Book Oblique, Bold, Bold Oblique. The FuturaMedium family contains Regular, Oblique, Heavy, and Heavy Oblique. And there's a Futura Light family (Light and Light Oblique) and a Futura Extrabold (ExtraBold and ExtraBold Oblique). Adobe Indesign is much better at listing all 12 fonts, in the proper order, in one family. But most other DTP apps (on Windows) organize fonts the same crazy way Frame does. > How many fonts is "too many?" Somehow over the years I've collected > 1000+ files in the fonts folder. In Windows 98 and earlier, it was important to minimize the number of fonts loaded (and printers installed) because the name and path of each font went into win.ini, and the OS would only load the first 64 kb of win.ini. Install too many fonts (or too many printers, because each one had its own list of fonts) and win.ini would exceed 64 kb and fonts would just start dropping off the list. Beginning with Windows 2000, this was no longer an issue. I have well over a thousand fonts loaded here, although I periodically weed out the ones I'm not using just to keep the list manageable. -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
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