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Carlo,

Can you use Arial Baltic in a new document to properly enter any of
the accented characters in FM7? If not, there's a problem with your
configuration. How did you create the Arial Baltic mapping for Arial?

This won't work in FM8, you have to use a non-unicode version of the
font encoded to the WinBaltic 1257 codepage, i.e. the derived Arial
Baltic from unicode Arial won't be recognized by FM8.

Well, Arial baltic is the Baltic set from Arial (unicode) font: when I use a non unicode font I see the Arial Baltic font (together with cyr, greek, CE, turk, etc). If I use an unicode font I just see Arial.
I tried to use some special baltic characters in fm7 and they don't work (but they work in MSWord or even in InDesign CS3), so I think that is my configuration error, but I don't know what.
I just changed the hard disk and installed everything, from Windows XP to FM7 and 8. I never do some special configuration for that.
What can I see?
Thanks!

As all unicode fonts don't work (Times New Roman, Courier, ecc.) I think that is some font setting in FM, but I can't understand which setting and where I can go to set it.

I tried to unistall and reinstall FM, to copy the Windows Language Setting from my colleague's PC, uninstall and reinstall fonts, but it still doesn't work.

Carlo, which specific versions of FM7 and FM8 are you using, the "pxxx" numbers from the Help > About screen.

I recall that there was a fix to some unicode issues in one update of FM8.

FM 8.0p277 is the latest. If you do need to update, be sure to apply all patches that are available, in sequence from oldest to newest, because the patches are not "roll-up".

Sheila, my FM7 is p579, my FM8 is p277.

I think that, may be, my colleague version is not updated...

I use FM from about 15 years, but it's the first time that I have this kind of problem.

Hallo,
it is not a problem of version of FM.
You have change the registry key
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes]
to alow Arial Baltic (or Arial CE, Arial Tur etc.) set to be visible in FM. Search the Google or contact me ICQ 260&029&350

In my PC this key seems to be the same that in others PC.
As all the other programs (Word, InDesign, Illustrator,...) recognize baltic font, I don't think that the problem is here.

MS Word or InDesign should not see a "Arial Baltic" font created using the FontSubstitutes method, because those are only for non-Unicode applications (I only checked with InDesign CS4).

This leads me to the following guess: You might have a real font with that name on your machine, which is not a subset of Arial and stops the FontSubstitute from working. Check your Fonts folder for anything like that.

- Michael

I'm having the same problem with fm8 and fm9.
In framemaker 7 the fonts are displayed correctly but if I tried to open the files in fm8 or fm9 it get the message that the baltic/cyrillics/CE fonts (ie Arial Baltic, Times Baltic...) are unavailable... so I'm stuck using fm7... :/

As additional info for others trying to work around this change to font handling in FM8 onwards, Arnis has many excellent troubleshooting steps and extensive explanation of the issues in threads on this forum.

For example, a forum or Google search for "code page fonts" turned up the following:

 <http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c064f60>

Damian,

Due to the unicode usage in FM8 and onwards, FM no longer recognizes
synthetically derived codepage fonts from a WGL TTF or OTF font. You
need to actually have a physical font file with the correct encoding
and naming for each of your derived fonts if you wish to continue work
with these font names.

The alternative is to re-work your templates to use unicode fonts and
remap the non-standard codepage specific characters to unicode values.
The second part may be easier with a script on a MIF file.

Yeah, I know, a royal PITA...