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Started by jan_axelson
Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:33
Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: jan_axelson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:33
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:33
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I'm trying to understand why the spacing after two paragraphs with different styles, but identical line-spacing settings, differs. From Paragraph Designer: Body Style AGaramond, 11.5 pt., above pgf: 2 pt., below pgf: 2 pt., line spacing 13.5 pt. Bullet Style AGaramond, 11.5 pt., above pgf: 2 pt., below pgf: 2 pt., line spacing 13.5 pt., uses automatic format \b\t Code Style Helv. Condensed, 10 pt., above pgf: 0 pt., below pgf: 0 pt., line spacing 12 pt. The space between Body and Code is much smaller than the space between Bullet and Code: Body paragraph small space Code paragraph Bullet paragraph big space Code paragraph I want Bullet to have the same spacing as Body. I'm using Frame 7.2 and WinXP. Any advice appreciated!
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:58
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:58
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Is Line Spacing set for Fixed in all of these? -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: Art Campbell
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:00
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:00
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And, to you have Text Symbols turned on, so you can see any extra returns?
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: jan_axelson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:17
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:17
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Line Spacing Fixed checked or not makes no difference. Text Symbols are on and there are no extra paragraph marks.
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: David_Crowe
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:44
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:44
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Are the paragraphs on different pages? Or different columns on the same page? If not, you may have feathering turned on under Format > Page Layout > Line Layout. Space is added between paragraphs to justify the text vertically on the page.
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: jan_axelson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:38
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:38
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That's it. Thank you so much! Jan
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: Ron
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:01
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:01
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<jan_axelson@adobeforums.com> wrote: > That's it. Thank you so much! > > Jan What was it?
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:48
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:48
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I don't think I can duplicate this without turning off Line Spacing > Fixed, and setting the bullet (or something else on the line) for a larger size. The only other thing I can think of (but you must have already checked this) is that the bullet paragraph has a line spacing override. When you select the bullet paragraph and go to Paragraph Designer, do you see line spacing 13.5? Or that this is in a table? Or that you're comparing paragraph combinations on two different pages and you've got Feathering turned on? If you want to zip up your file and send it to me (kbenson at pegtype dot com) or post it somewhere, I'd be happy to take a look. -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Re: Space between paragraphs - why different for styles with same settings?
Author: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:31
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:31
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I can't explain it well right now, but this is happening because some of the paragraphs are defined to use the column space, and some are defined to use the column plus sidehead space. Anything that spans columns (or sidehead space) has to clear space so it doesn't overprint text that does not span columns, so spacing doesn't work by the same rules. That said, I'm not sure if I could spell out how spacing *is* supposed to work in these situations, except to say that your problem will go away if you make all your paragraphs either use the column or use the sidehead space plus column. If you have a true sidehead, then you get to choose the vertical alignment, so spacing shouldn't be an issue. Otherwise, I don't see why you need to span the sidehead space but then indent past it. I would put all three of these paragraphs in the column only. -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
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