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11 total messages Started by James_McKay Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:42
Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2715
Author: James_McKay
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:42
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Hello,

I am working with a few FrameMaker 8 (unstructured) files where the track changes were left on in MS Word, before the document (RTF) came into FrameMaker 8.

Now, I have red underlined text and it does not want to go away. Of course, I could be missing something very simple.

Actually, I was able to open up the Character Designer found the underline boxed checked. So, I was able to fix half of the issue. But, I still have the issue with the red text. No matter what I do, it seems to remain there. Of course, I can simply delete this text and type over it again in black text, but I am hoping to find a better way.

Is there a way to fix this? Could I use Find/Change command at the document or book level to hunt down any red text and change it back to black text?

Where would I correct this problem, provided there was a way to do just that?

Thanks in advance for assistance on this question.

Regards,

-J
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2716
Author: Van_Kurtz
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:10
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James,

Select the red text. Then in the character designer, change the color from red to black, and click apply to selection. In fact, if all your text is to be black, select all the text in the flow and set the color to black in the character designer. If you can remove the underlining from the character designer, I would think you could change the color also.

Van
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2717
Author: Art Campbell
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:14
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If it is, in fact, a Condition, just go into the Conditional text tool and delete it.
A prompt will ask you whether you want to delete the text or convert it to Unconditional.
Select Convert.
At this point, I'd save the file out to MIF and reopen that and save it over the FM copy in order to remove any other Word carry-over characters.
Then just reapply your standard formats.

If it isn't conditional text, do the MIF cleaning step and reapply a black copy of whatever para formats the text uses.

Art
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2718
Author: James_McKay
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:37
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Hello guys,

Yes, I can remove the underline without a problem, but not the red text. This is true even after saving it out as a MIF file and then re-saving it as a FM file.

Re-applying the color black, does not do a thing. I still have a word, that is in red text. It must be something strange from MS Word.

So, for now, I guess I will have to re-type over those entries to get the black text again. Perhaps I can issue a Find/Change for red text - wishful thinking...

Regards,

-J
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2720
Author: Sheila_Carlisle
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:51
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James, if you haven't yet tried it, there's a great freebie tool called MIFBrowse that could be very useful for finding intractible leftovers from Word.

 <http://www.grahamwideman.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm>

In most cases "MIF washing" by saving a file as MIF and then reopening it does indeed help "disinfect" things that get carried through from RTF, but I've also seen stuff that didn't get removed that way, although the code wasn't anything that was documented in the MIF manual, either.

ah, and this could be one of them -- I've seen instances of a a "lock" property that comes through from RTF that doesn't get washed when saved as MIF, so maybe that's why the red color doesn't disappear.
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2723
Author: James_McKay
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:37
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Hello Sheila,

Thanks for the advice. I will have to give that tool a try. Yes, perhaps it is a "lock" property as you put it.

Thanks again,

Jim
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2551
Author: Thomas_Michanek
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:40
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> Yes, perhaps it is a "lock" property as you put it.

But did you check if it is conditional text?
That's the most apparent explanation for text that
cannot be changed using the Character Designer.

-- 
/Thomas Michanek
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2672
Author: MIF.Masters
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09
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If you have a lot of this work to do... perhpas I can help...

further info

www.mifmasters.com

David.
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2676
Author: Van_Kurtz
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:22
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James,

You say the red text is still there. What did you do to try to change it to black? You should be able to do this in the character designer, as you did with the underlining. THe character designer contains a color drop down.

Van
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2680
Author: N_P_Grundtvig_Nielsen
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:31
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Just been dealing with the same scenario, Word "track changes" arriving as conditions because I was too lazy to clean the source .doc first ;-} And yes, it took two steps to clear it out: first make the text unconditional, then remove the formatting override. [Esc, o, c, p for those who enjoy the keyboard approach]
Re: Removal of legacy (RTF) conditions
#2447
Author: James_McKay
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:25
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Hello,

Thanks for all the replies. I do appreciate it.
In the end, I went back into MS Word and ran a macro (courtesy of Hans on www.wopr.com) and this macro removes all tracked changes and comments. Sometimes though, you have to run the macro a few times to scrub documents with stubborn track changes.

Anyways, I am all set now and I highly recommend running macros in Word first before pulling the documents into FrameMaker. The people up on the WOPR forum will usually answer your posting in a day - if not the same hour. They are EXTREMELY helpful.

Thanks,

-J
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