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While in design view, find the place where you want the banner and type 'I WANT THE BANNER HERE'.

Then switch to source/HTML view, find and replace 'I WANT THE BANNER HERE' with the code provided to you.

thanks for the suggestion...but no go...didnt work

Do you have a link to the page in question wee can have a look at ???

hey, thanks for the replys/help...

site in progress- www.eyeswidegreen.org

first desire was to put it over the gross advertising banner from GD, which was a shock to see this came free of charge!! how bout that..

anyways, i havent figured out how to remove that yet...

So id like the banner, for now on the left of the eye...but at any rate, it like to know for future reference, the proper way to place a banner, anywhere i want...i never knew it would be this hard...

I wonder if you are still thinking of a web page as similar to a printed page? You cannot just physically place anything in a specific place on a web page, the way you can in a page layout application. Golive's grids may mislead you into thinking you can.

I actually do pay for this hosting, along with 4 other sites we pay for...The "free" comment was in reference to the hosting companys "free" banner, the hosting came with...it was called sarcasm...

What does my hosting company have to do with banner placement, which it seems no one can answer here...so i guess banners are stuck where they land,,

actually, so far, Ive been able to put anything i want where ever i want on my web page, which was created in image ready. Ive had no issue with that before. GoLives grids have not been confusing for me, so no, I haven't been misled. I mostly use GoLive for source code and uploading.

Again, relevance as to banner placement? If no one knows how to place a banner in a desired position, please just let mw know.
thank you.

In article <59b84f99.3@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>,
 jennifer_getz@adobeforums.com wrote:

> first desire was to put it over the gross advertising banner from GD, which 
> was a shock to see this came free of charge!! how bout that..
> 
> anyways, i havent figured out how to remove that yet...

I'm afraid the first step you need to take is get descent - not free - 
hosting.

-- 
Cheers  Martin

If you pay for the hosting, why does it say "This page is hosted free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com�"?

Web hosting is different than domain name registration. Those are two different services that require two different payments.

The nonsense that you see at the top of the page is actually from HTML at the very bottom of the page. Look at your source (rendered in the browser) and notice what comes after the TWO closing </HTML> tags. This is added by your free web hosting service. Clean up those two closing HTML tags. You should only have one.

But if you feel grids are fine for placement, why are you having trouble? Jim gave you one solution - type in 'banner here', go to source code and replace that. Or place some image or other, replace that in source view.

If you pay for the hosting, why does it say "This page is hosted free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com�"?

-Because when they sold us our 5 hosting plans, you are able to add multiple "subdomains" under that one account...that is why..it is paid for as a package.

Yes Im aware of domain registration and hosting. we have both.

I took a look at the source code and i see it, when its in the browser, but it does not show up when editing my source code, therefore cannot remove it.

Yes, Jims suggestion was great, however after putting the source code in, it does not show up.

It sounds as though you can have those sub-domains as long as you tolerate the advertising.

      I took a look at the source code and i see it, when its in the browser,
      but it does not show up when editing my source code, therefore cannot
      remove it.




If you only have one closing HTML tag in your version created by GoLive then you need to contact your hosting provider and alert them to the fact that they are injecting invalid HTML on your page. Ask them to correct it or find another host. You should not be paying for this. Not even freely hosted sites hack this up so badly.

Check out these links for hiding the ads...

Link 1 <http://www.splashofstyle.com/archives/2006/02/12/free-hosting-with-godaddy-domain-purchase/>

Link 2 <http://www.techontour.com/web-design/2008/03/29/hide-ads-on-godaddy-free-hosting/>

Everything I see indicates you are using free hosting. If you are paying for free hosting then you need to straighten someone out.

Again, i am not paying, for "free hosting". I pay for my hosting, however, the hosting plans COME, with unlimited free "subdomains".

Thank you for the links, good to know...

any banner placement help??

"If you only have one closing HTML tag in your version created by GoLive then you need to contact your hosting provider and alert them to the fact that they are injecting invalid HTML on your page. Ask them to correct it or find another host. You should not be paying for this. Not even freely hosted sites hack this up so badly.

"yes, there is only one html tag...maybe a different program would show the tag??? i dont know hy it wouldnt be there...seems weird, and a bit scary, that they can put anything "unwanted" in the site...

thanks for the help...do u think possibly a different program would list the tags?? therefore make it editable?

      any banner placement help??




Why don't you share what source code you are trying to put in and tell us precisely where you want it? Use a secondary page to show what you are trying to do if you don't want to mess up the home page.

      seems weird, and a bit scary, that they can put anything "unwanted" in
      the site...




This is why you need to stop paying for this particular hosting. It is a joke. You are paying for the wrong hosting. There are plenty of other hosts that offer unlimited subdomains at no charge and with no ads.

the source code is just a code for the banner....why would it matter what the code says....i just want to put the banner up on the site, in a certain position...

Case closed. You can't cover up the advertising stuff at the top, it's a condition of your free hosting.

      why would it matter




When you need help, please don't dismiss people's questions, please consider that you may not know as much as the people you are asking about what is going on.

excuse me, but i believe asking for help in a forum, is saying in itself, that i am not educated with this issue...this issue was never about the advertising banner, if u read the initail post, it was a btw reference. And by thiis incredibly ongoing thread, the people im supposedly asking, dont know and havent given a direct solution as far as the intent of this post...How/is it possible/can i/what do i need to do to position a banner,,,NOT an advertising baner< on a webpage ive created.... so heres your banner source code, if you think it will help.

 <http://www.earthhour.org/voteearth/>

"

"case closed".. guess what. that wasnt my question, or issue in thie thread.
case status-no solutions provided by "help" in forum inregars to initial post.

To be fair, you're not making yourself particularly easy to help. Much of what's being asked of you IS relevant to the original problem, whether you realize it or not (it's pretty much always all about the code). I just added a space after the opening < tags in your code above in message 23 so the code shows up in the forum.

If you're trying to add the banner to your page, but you aren't familiar with HTML to where you can adjust the table code as needed, then your best bet is to first make a slice in your ImageReady (or Photoshop - whatever you said you were using) file that's the same size as the banner (300px by 250px), then do a fresh Save for Web. Once you have your exported page open in GoLive, select the image slice in the placeholder position, delete the image, type in some text like Jim suggested, like "insert here" or whatever and switch to source code view. Finally, replace the "insert here" text with your actual banner code.

If you do that and something still doesn't seem right, please post back with a link to the page showing the current status of your latest attempt and we may be able to offer additional help.

The main issue here is that there's no simple answer to "how to place a banner in GoLive". It depends entirely on how the page is built and how the banner code is built. The answer to your question required additional information.

I'd make this a bit easier for the novice. Composite the banner from voteearth2009.org in Photoshop/ImageReady on top of the eyeball/soil graphic. Then make an imagemap link in ImageReady or GoLive.

But there are more proper ways to do this design...

With no personal offense intended, it is very difficult to understand how to best relay a solution to a problem when we cannot understand your comprehension level or experience with web authoring. Your assertion that you are paying for this free site, the 1MB of data used to render this single web page, and the inability to place a simple banner prompted us all to offer suggestions even if they were not the suggestions you thought that you wanted. That is the nature of a forum.

I recommend that you revisit the manner in which you designed this page. You should educate yourself regarding repeating backgrounds and transparent GIF files (well described in GoLive's help). You could clean this page up considerably to make it much easier to arrange objects and to display on screens of various resolutions. Start by using a background image of the soil that repeats. Then layer the other elements on top.

The soil is used as the "background image" in the output settings, so it is used as the way you are suggesting, as a gif background already, assuming that's what you meant.
So far, Ive had no problem arranging the page. My only issue so far, was inputting a code, from another source, and playing with the positioning. Yours is the first suggestion made here about creating slices for this banner, which is a great idea, totally helpful and appreciated...
I'm sure as a graphics design pro, when you say "there are more proper ways to do this design", I am positive about that.. However, being a non-profit, I'm sure you can understand, funds are never there to hire people with your expertise. I completely taught myself step by step on how to create what we wanted (so far anyways), and there is no doubt in my mind it was the more complicated longer route. My experience in Image Ready and Photoshop I am pretty advanced, and comprehend it. This was/is my first experience with GoLive, mostly used for uploading modified files..
Please don't think I am not grateful for all of your input.... that is what I came here for.
My first "creation" (or disaster, depending on how u look at), was our first non-profit. This was my first attack at all the Image Ready/slices/maps/etc...(site below). If you have any input on it, Id love to hear it, thanks again! www.somethingbigger.org

      The soil is used as the "background image" in the output settings




You are confused. If the soil was a background image, you would see it referenced in the HTML as something like this:
<body background="/images/soil.gif">

Aside from apparent inexperience, I think the greater problem is that you think that you need to input code. Look at it another way. All you really need is that banner graphic and the link described in that code.

If you want to continue with the design method you have used, you really need to composite the banner image in Photoshop/ImageReady and add a link to it from the code you are trying to paste. This could all be done in Photoshop/ImageReady. GoLive is not needed for this particular task.

in my source code, in GL, the image for the background, is grabbed at the provided url. so its getting it (the image), from the url

I see you are making progress but you need to remove dirt from images like this...
 <http://www.eyeswidegreen.org/images/index_04.gif>

Since you have dirt defined as the page background now, you can trim up all your other graphics to be transparent GIF files that contain no dirt texture. These transparent GIF files can be much smaller files.

Yes, I tried this, and when i did a preview (image ready), all the images came out looking like:

 <http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/jengetz11/eyes2.jpg>
 <http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/jengetz11/eyes.jpg>

jim, thank you for all your help, deeply appreciated.

When producing those GIF files, be sure to set the matte color to an averaged brown color found in the dirt image.

 <http://www.photoshopcafe.com/tutorials/transparent/transparent.htm>

...or you can save as PNG with transparency instead of GIF.

jim, the thing about that, atleast when i attempted this...i cannot have these images on a "black" background, or any sort of color, as described in this tutorial..When saved as a PNG, i get the same results,.

Substitute any instance of the word 'black' in that tutorial with the averaged brown of your dirt. (#644920)

if thats the case, and the entire br is set as the dirt, wont the background of all the images be patchy looking?

ok...i redid the page with just a transparent background, and removed the backgound to the images you reffered to...man it felt good to get rid of that extra weight..so the only way i was able to view it without the "halos", was as a png, which seemed fine..When going back to GoLive to upload/modify the existing, its not reading the png files..so thats my current obstacle..

thank you again!!

Sorry to relay this but with all the changes you have done, you have only saved 100 kb. You're still hanging around 900 kb for that page.

There is little sense to how you have sliced your image. Why is there so much negative space around your objects? Why don't you have each element in the design as its own image file? You cannot easily optimize the large black text if it is sharing the same color palette as the top of the eye.

Jim, i don't know what to tell you. which "image" are u referring to.

you can see, there aren't many slices, including the auto slices;

 <http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k309/jengetz11/e1.jpg>

I'm sorry. I cannot offer more. Take a web design class or buy a book. Study fluid layouts. There is just so much wrong here. I appreciate this is for a non-profit but you are wasting so much more time by pushing stones uphill than if you simply contact a web design shop in your area and ask for free or discount aid.

...and I say this as someone with much experience with non-profits.

There is no logic in slicing through the eye. There is no logic in the vast expanse of nothing in the upper corners. Why do you need image files to define those blank areas?

Geez Jim, why does it feel like my lack of having adobe golive mastered is somehow a personal attack on you.
I am more than grateful for all the input you and the forum have offered.I did not realize I "sliced through the eye".I tried to eliminate all the auto slices, but wasnt able to. I took your suggestion yesterday eliminated the background,leaving the images(eye,grass,etc).
As someone with so much non profit experience, you'd know how hard it is to get funding/aid with anything, let alone web design.
instead of posting your obvious frustration with my lack of "logic" behind slices, post something useful.
Were forums not intended to help/assist? Or is this forum an exception, and conditional.

I'm not feeling attacked. I'm not talking with an equal and there is a huge communication problem. I appreciate that you are new to this. We're all new to something.

You are dealing with an issue that is best addressed by hands-on or video based instruction. It is all about the technique. There is a limit to how far a text based discussion in a forum can go.

If you posted a link to the original PSD file, I or anyone else here could make your page in 5 minutes. From that, you could see how it was constructed and probably know better next time.

      you'd know how hard it is to get funding/aid with anything, let alone
      web design




There is plenty of free web design training on the web. This is not a 'money' issue. This is an 'investment of time' issue. I don't blame you for anything. I blame Adobe for making the slice tool too easy to be abused.

And the grids.

      post something useful.




Very unkind. It's not anyone's job to teach you web design (especially for nothing), and there's a huge amount more to it than slicing stuff up in Imageready. No application will teach you - just as owning InDesign doesn't mean you know how to do page layout and owning a good camera doesn't make you a photographer.

You may well get help, as you have, with specific points in a forum, but you keep insisting things are simple, and demanding a simple answer - there's just much more to the whole business of web design than you realise or want to admit.

No-one is blaming you for not knowing anything about how to do this - but please take Jim's advice, and learn.

You might not recognise it, but Jim has given you the most useful advice anyone could.

      You might not recognise it, but Jim has given you the most useful advice
      anyone could.




I was thinking the same thing.

Jennifer pleas post a link to the original psd file (or a zip version of it)

Im havving som holydays comming up, and im shure i can find the time to set up the code, image and text in a way that you can work with and (hopefuly) understand.

it will not be exatly like yours look like, but im sure you will find it usefull

Here is 2 that shud be done:
1. The page ar way to wide, it shud be under 1000px wide (to fit most screens)
2. the text shud be text. not images.... text can be search, image can not...and are easy to edit

also the html code can be mutch better....

I can see it at temporary page, and that the real page is beeing pland, so i will strongly recomend that you get hold on some html book, read/see tutorials, and start trying to learn as mutch about webdesign as posible. (a html class woud be great)
Learning HTML may be hard in the beginning, but youll soon get the hang of it.
Remember, we have all been new to this, and have all had to learn it step by step..

:-)

"Education is learning what you didn't even know you didn't know!"
"True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing."
"Wisdom is knowing what to do next; Virtue is doing it."

post#12- "Yes,Jim suggestion was great"
post#28-"I'm sure as a graphics design pro,when you say"there are more proper ways to do this design", I am positive about that."
post#32- "jim, thank you for all your help, deeply appreciated."
post#37- "thank you again!!"
post#41- "my lack of having adobe golive mastered"
         "my lack of "logic""
         "I am more than grateful for all the input you and the forum
          have offered"

Kath and LRK, show me a post where I said how "simple" things were....
your right Kath, you really dont get much more unkind than this.
If you read the posts, you would have noticed, I followed every one of Jims suggestions, but clearly you must have skipped over the parts that display much gratitude.

      post something useful.




Good luck jennifer, I'm out of here.

Jennifer, I can tell you're frustrated, and I can appreciate that. The point is if you were to provide Jim (or Jesper) with your .psd file they could cut to the chase by actually working with the file, and then provide you with the corrected version. It would seem that this would save a lot of time and you would see for yourself the logic in how it can be done better.

One thing I noticed right off the bat is that you seem to have a very large file that you are working with. You need to reduce a copy of this .psd to resolution of 72 dpi, with dimensions being around 800 or 850 pixels wide.

You might enjoy a book called "The Non Web Designer's Design Book" by Robin Williams <http://www.amazon.com/Non-Designers-Web-Book-Robin-Williams/dp/0201710382>

Jesper, thank you so much for offering your help and suggestions..Very much appreciated..
If you dont mind, I will happily send you a psd file, via email. Would that work for you?
A bit much more commotion than I can handle here, for a forum...

Again, thanks!

help@somethingbigger.org

LRK, thank you, as well for your suggestions..I had intended to post/give Jim a link, but I noticed he feels ha cannot offer more, so I dont want to supply him with another load, if you know what I mean..
Yes, books are great, and they are here. They are how I got this far, and was able to execute and learn the process of animation.
FYI, I was suggested this size, reason being the larger screens issue?

thank you again.