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I don't know about the school lending itself to being an environment for painting or not or the setting.

NYC is a real jungle by comparison to any place I have ever been to and where as there are parts of LA that might give you concern it is not anything like the place I com from and yet there are so many people from the hell whole who have became painters, photographers, musicians, scientist, writers, sculptors and many that are our heros in TV and the Films.

I do not think the setting has anything to do with expressing yourself in any media.

One photography teacher I knew said that if you are truly, completely sensitive to your environment, you would be completely exhausted trying to work one block, and out of film long before that.

Brooks seems to have gone through a catharsis in thinking about photography. I had the opportunity to visit the campus in SB in the late 60's (my 8x10 period). I really got some bad feedback about what I could expect from Brooks coming at photography from the Weston-Adams POV. They weren't interested in talking to me any more and were rather disparaging of that "type" as I recall.

A former brother-in-law did go there a few years later but didn't finish.

      ...you would be completely exhausted trying to work one block...




I agree. One doesn't have to be in Paris or Yellowstone to make good pics. Pretty pics?...that's another thing. Subject matter may not be as interesting, but surely, one can find (create) pics with great sense of design, color, texture, even emotion in their own neighborhood...wherever they live.

I'm constantly being distracted by everyday scenes when I'm driving---and say, I have to come back for that shot. Usually don't, unless it's something that really stands out. If I'm lucky, I have my camera and time to stop and shoot.

I don't think that the geographical location matters � what matters is the type of students and teachers that the place attracts because the real learning comes from the experience, and stimulation, of rubbing mind against mind.

At least it does for me.

"I have to come back for that shot. Usually don't, unless it's something that really stands out. If I'm lucky, I have my camera and time to stop and shoot."

That's just it. I've found that you can't simply come back. Even one day later at the same hour the light is different, everything can be completely different. For sure it is best to carry a camera when you know you are going through landscape that makes you want to stop, then you'll probably get that picture you wanted.

Not only carry the camera, but keep it ready for a moment's notice.

(talking to myself here - something I do not do enough.)

Wade, I heard you mention the Canon D5 MKII - What a dream, I got to look at at a show in Los Angeles. What a fabulous camera. The pics it takes are impressive indeed.

Let us know when you get one or better yet, let us see some results.

Ken

The photography course at Daytona Beach Community College have always been second to Brooks. It's either you went to Brooks or Daytona. At least it was that way during the 70's, 80's and 90's.

I don't now about this, I often plan what I am going to do even in know ing the type of traffic, pedestrian and o vehicular or air traffic or wildlife interaction which to some degree can be predicted according to the time of day, or astrological events, weather and seasons, foliage etc.

Lots and lots of different circumstances and then make this say what it has to say, everything has a profound effect on us no matter how mundane it may seem to us.

We learn to see better and better as time passes and therefore what looks ordinary to day may seem beautiful tomorrow.

I just heard a brilliant performance by the Chicago Symphony at Carnegie Hall of a piece by Leos Janacek called Sinfonietta they say when the piece was first performed people just thought just was just bad composing and when it started off i thought myself OMG but that soon turned to amazement as the orchestra was really fired up by the conductor Pierre Boulez who was absolutely brilliant.

So now what was once thought to be nothing is performed brilliantly and was one of the best performances I have gone to this year.

So things change as we get to develop our understanding of what we see, at least that is how I have gotten to see things.

True all through the history of art.

What's your point?

Hmmm, photography by astrology. That's a good one!

As I wrote I often plan what i do I expect things to happen nothing is really static in this universe so the idea that you cannot anticipate things happening is not really valid as you are almost certain that there will be opportunities.

If you take the approach that you can only get unique images because you were there at the time you will restrict your self rather then free yourself and open yourself to the possibilities.

Making rules and assumptions like this is not a good idea.

A couple of aphorisms are worthwhile here:

1) "Always tell the truth, but don't always be telling it"
-Anon

2) "Those who know do not say
   Those who say do not know"
-Lao Tzu

3) Go back to 1.

Post #23 applies equally to� post#23.

"I don't now about this, I often plan what I am going to do even in know ing the type of traffic, pedestrian and o vehicular or air traffic or wildlife interaction which to some degree can be predicted according to the time of day, or astrological events, weather and seasons, foliage etc.

Lots and lots of different circumstances and then make this say what it has to say, everything has a profound effect on us no matter how mundane it may seem to us.

We learn to see better and better as time passes and therefore what looks ordinary to day may seem beautiful tomorrow.

I just heard a brilliant performance by the Chicago Symphony at Carnegie Hall of a piece by Leos Janacek called Sinfonietta they say when the piece was first performed people just thought just was just bad composing and when it started off i thought myself OMG but that soon turned to amazement as the orchestra was really fired up by the conductor Pierre Boulez who was absolutely brilliant.

So now what was once thought to be nothing is performed brilliantly and was one of the best performances I have gone to this year.

So things change as we get to develop our understanding of what we see, at least that is how I have gotten to see things. "

That's what I want on my tombstone.

Spoken like a true artist Wade. Very nice. It's good to be excited about things, deeply excited. To hell with the mundane, give me fire and ice, and let me express what I see through brush, pen or camera lens.

Keep up the good work,

Ken

PS: and as soon as I get my bearings on my new work situation, I'm going to ravage my credit card with the purchase of the new D5. Definitely the next step up for me. anyway.

Post #23 applies equally to� post#24.

      You also have Art Center in Pasedena




I went to Art Center for a short period of time when it was still in Los Angeles. Unfortunately I was very young and not ready to make a serious commitment. It had very stimulating energy.

You are right Cindy. The friend of mine who graduated from there was the most prolific and hard-working artist you can imagine, I'm sure the school built a lot of that into him. Everything he did was done quickly, patiently, accurately to perfection, and he didn't look for short cuts either. He took on massive works, painting and commercial illustrations, that had mind-boggling detail.

Too bad I've lost touch with him and don't find his name by googling it.

Don't know where he is.

Scott McIntire - Hats off to you.

Ken

Funny, I found this, which I'm almost certain is him, but no links that work or whereabouts. I'll bet he's pursuing art somewhere.

 <http://www.artsitesgallery.com/files/Download/Three%20buildings.htm>

I knew him as well, Ken. Yes, he did some really fine work.

We're still in school. There's just no name on the door now.

Smoking in the bathroom?

      Smoking in the bathroom?




Your productive and formative years well sent!

Thats probably well spent, and could be taken about five different ways...well, maybe three. I think the song was "Smokin' in the Boy's Room" cause girls, of course, were good. Brownsville Station. 1973.

Laurentiu was an informant?

no. and I didn't inhale

Now we're getting somewhere.

So you are telling us you smoked but did not inhale, and you expect us to believe that�is that what you're saying?

no

A devoted Visene customer.

If you look closely you can just make out Wade taking his shot of Disney Hall...

 <http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1amABCDeeGQT6BiepUCtZl9nFECPnU>

XD

What's that little spot down there?
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That's no spot...that's Wade.
;)

Wow!

That's what I call a great architectural shot. :D

You just need to get on a really tall ladder...

:)

Aerodynamicists have proved that helicopters can't fly.

      Aerodynamicists have proved that helicopters can't fly.




They don't fly they rise or fall. And then they are pushed directed in one direction or another.

Sometimes scientist do the research using the wrong criteria.

A rocket does not fly either although a rocket lane does to some extent but mostly it glides which is the part that is flight.

A hot air balloon does not fly either.

      "Aerodynamicists have proved that helicopters can't fly"

Could Superman really fly, or was it just special effects to deceive us?

      Could Superman really fly, or was it just special effects to deceive us?




I never doubted he could fly, it was just his method of propulsion that always puzzled me ;-) .

Oh well, I suppose he was Super man in all things.....

Sometimes scientist do the research using the wrong criteria.

...never mind

Lawrence it happens all the time that is why some proven scientific fact is later proven to be not so?

I know as an engineer you do not like the idea hat you can be mistaken even when you are very careful about your work but the fact is you can and probably are often as is the case with most scientist and engineers and why we are having increasing amounts of building failures, bridge failures rocket failures medical failures ( drugs that are proven to be more harmful then helpful after they have killed hundreds of people), you know that kind of thing.

Hmmmm I saw several helicopters and one B-17 flying around Los Angeles this afternoon.

if a helicopter flies in the forest and wade doesn't see it�

now, wade, you'll have to take another photo of a Gehry building (or a flying puppy : )

Now that is one cute flying puppy.

You re correct the next time I am in LA.

Gad, Wade, you are so full of it.

Engineering and science...
never mind.....

Do you know what science actually does?

in inches or centimeters? : )

LOL!

Very good LT!

Lawrence know do you?

Pray tell, tell us!

Answering a question with a question is bad form.

The secret of flight - huge, flapping ears!

Love that shot, LT.

not mine
sorry if there was any confusion!
and yes, I like the pooch too
(and Gehry's buildings : )

Hope the pup landed somewhere forgiving! <g>

I have a new kitten who, even if he doesn't land correctly, still likes the ride. It's all instigated by him, of course, who knows no bounds.

according to "ceci n'est pas un chien", the pup will never land : )

My cat, when kitten, used to stay on top of my head when I was driving
from the side, it must've looked like like a Davy Crockett hat : )