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6 total messages Started by Jonathan Ireland Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17
setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1372
Author: Jonathan Ireland
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17
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This may be a question for quark folks, but is there a good reason why all the Adobe RIPs I've tried ignore a setcustcrgb Pantone call (from quark composite RGB mode) but interpret correctly setcustc Pantone call (from quark composite CMYK mode)The Pantone name info and color component quartet (or triad) is the same in both cases, just the syntax is different (setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc) 

You can confirm this by defining a Pantone named spot color to 100k, then output from quark 4.1x or 5x in both composite RGB and composite cmyk mode. cmyk gives the real pantone color (instead of 100k) RGB gives 100k. 

Is quark just doing something that is not allowed? or is Adobe breaking things here?
Re: setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1373
Author: Aandi Inston
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:07
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A RIP should not interpret either of those, as neither one is standard
PostScript.  But you will probably find procedure definitions for
those names inside the PostScript file itself.

Aandi Inston
Re: setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1374
Author: Jonathan Ireland
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:13
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OK right. as I just figured out by doing a "find" on setcustc on the red book pdf. 

I suppose I'll be having a follow up question to this after I find that procedure... Thanks.
Re: setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1375
Author: Aandi Inston
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:27
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Some RIPs do define "setcmykcustomcolor". That isn't standard, but it
does allow some of Quark's composite spot colour output to separate.  

Have fun tracing those procedures. I did it once, and it took a long
time...

Aandi Inston
Re: setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1376
Author: Jonathan Ireland
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:41
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you're not kidding. yuck. I'm looking right at the procedure, ("Find" saves the day again, but it may as well be klingon for me.) I guess I have to pick up some PS coding books. Any recommendations? 

Aside from the PS code, is there any way for me to dig around in the RIP? distiller interprets the setcustc (and not setcuscrgb) similarly to my Hardware rips. Anyway to look in there?
Re: setcustcrgb Vs. setcustc for Pantone call
#1377
Author: Aandi Inston
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:54
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You'll certainly need the PostScript Language Reference Manual.
Depending on your programming and graphics experience you may need
training materials too.

But on the other hand, you could just take it as a bonus.  By Quark's
design, composite PostScript does NOT separate spot colours. Some RIP
makers have found a way to pick up some of these cases and separate
them despite Quark's intentions.

Aandi Inston
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