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Started by Tom_Ricardo
Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:33
COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Tom_Ricardo
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:33
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:33
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Here is my situation. I want to print out professional quality DVD box covers in terms of text and image sharpness. I have all my covers saved in psd format. Printing in photoshop is horrible, and when I import just the pictures into illustrator then put the text over it, the images look horrible. So i've read that PostScript printing is the way to go. I do not obviously have a postscript printer, but I know I can install an emulation downloadable on Adobe's site. I downloaded GhostView and GhostScript already. Please, any information would save me. Thankyou so very much. k
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Odysseus
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:33
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:33
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Tom_Ricardo@adobeforums.com wrote: > > Here is my situation. I want to print out professional quality DVD box covers in terms of text and image sharpness. I have all my covers saved in psd format. Printing in photoshop is horrible, and when I import just the pictures into illustrator then put the text over it, the images look horrible. So i've read that PostScript printing is the way to go. I do not obviously have a postscript printer, but I know I can install an emulation downloadable on Adobe's site. I downloaded GhostView and GhostScript already. Please, any information would save me. Thankyou so very much. > Why not save your Illustrator file as a PDF, and use the free Acrobat Reader to print it? You won't get great results on a non-PS printer, but they might look better than when printing directly from the application. OTOH if you're being put off by the appearance of your Illustrator file on-screen, bear in mind that the images underneath your text are just screen previews that don't necessarily give a true representation of their quality when printed. For best results you should get your project professionally printed on PS equipment; most printers or copy-shops will be able to work with a native Illustrator file or a PDF version thereof. Talk to them first about their requirements for image colour mode and resolution, but you're unlikely to go wrong if you save the pictures in CMYK at 240-300 ppi. (Type set in Illustrator, being vector artwork, is good for any resolution -- it's just the raster images from Photoshop that are likely to be a concern.) --Odysseus
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Aandi_Inston
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:40
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:40
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Ok, that's your first problem, right there. Using PSD format for text. The text on DVD/CD covers is often very small and you need the best possible text. Don't use an image editor to do the text. Hence, the first problem. Beginners often make the mistake of trying to do everything in one program, but that isn't what the pros do. Use Photoshop to do your images, save them as TIFFs. Combine them in InDesign, Illustrator or similar, then add text. If the images aren't sharp, check your resolution. General advice: avoid text on a photo or coloured background, and avoid text in any colour except black until you are more confident. This is really hard to get readable, and pros know that you have to restrain your design ideas if you want it legible. Anyway, that's getting off topic I guess. You write: "I do not obviously have a postscript printer" - I don't know about the "obviously" here. If you want "professional quality" you can't just use a cheap inkjet. ".., but I know I can install an emulation downloadable on Adobe's site" but there is no such thing on Adobe's site. Generally you have to buy an emulator. Aandi Inston
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Tom_Ricardo
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:08
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:08
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Ok, you mention resolution. I used the standard 72ppi which I believe is the problem. Can I go back into photoshop and re-sample my PSD's to like 300ppi? How would I do that. Then I just need to save as .TIFF and import to illustrator to add text, then just print correct? Thankyou so very much. This means a lot. k
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Odysseus
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 02:03
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 02:03
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Tom_Ricardo@adobeforums.com wrote: > > Ok, you mention resolution. I used the standard 72ppi which I believe is the problem. Can I go back into photoshop and re-sample my PSD's to like 300ppi? How would I do that. Then I just need to save as .TIFF and import to illustrator to add text, then just print correct? Thankyou so very much. This means a lot. > You can certainly upsample your images in Photoshop (in the Image Size dialog, with the "Resample Image" box checked), but the image quality won't improve a whole lot -- basically you'll just turn 'jaggies' into 'blobbies'. While Photoshop's bicubic interpolation is quite good at smoothing out large pixels while preserving what detail is there, in going from 72 ppi to 300 ppi the program is in effect 'inventing' something like 95% of the image you see -- and it can't add detail or sharpness that wasn't there to start with. For best results upsample in steps; look at the file size in the dialog and avoid increasing it to more than double at a time: e.g. 72 ppi -> 101 ppi, 101 -> 142, 142 -> 200 (I'd stop there, as 200 ppi is enough to avoid noticeable jaggies if the job will be printed using halftone screens in the 133- to 150-lpi range typical of offset printing). There are some applications and Photoshop plug-ins available (e.g. "Genuine Fractals" IIRC) that use fancy mathematical methods to disguise a lack of 'real' data in an upsampled image, but none of them can truly create something out of nothing. I realize it may not be possible for you at this point, but the optimal solution would be to rescan or recreate the raster artwork at a higher resolution, before adding the text in a page-layout or illustration program. --Odysseus
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Aandi_Inston
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:33
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:33
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> Can I go back into photoshop and re-sample my PSD's to like 300ppi? No, absolutely not. It's like turning chicken soup back into chickens - beyond hope. Yes, you can increase the resolution in Photoshop but you can't put back the quality you don't have. You need to create your images or rescan at higher resolution. Probably around 200 dpi (ppi). > Then I just need to save as .TIFF and import to illustrator to add text, then just print correct? Yes. Aandi Inston
Re: COMPLETE noob.....need general help.
Author: Aandi_Inston
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:53
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:53
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By the way, this is really getting off topic. Questions on Photoshop technique are best answered in the Photoshop forum - which has a whole lot more people, who are experts in the field. Aandi Inston
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