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3 total messages Started by The Flying Dutchman Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:16
Source AVI = 700mb. . output is 2GIGS? Help - dont want to loose quality
#1
Author: The Flying Dutchman
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:16
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Dear Colleagues,



I have a most perplexing dilemma involving adobe Premiere 8.0 - the academic 
edition.



Using a program called Hypercam 2.0 I am able to record whatever I may be 
doing on a computer with sound for training purposes.



Recently I recorded a 1.5 hour demonstration and was able to spit it out 
into the form of an AVI without issue.  The end file was about 790mb in 
size.



Since this was for training for my company, I went over to my trusty Adobe 
Premier and edited out a few portions, added in a few titles and put a 
transparent company logo on the bottom right hand corner of the entire 
presentation.



Of course, rendering the darn thing took three hours, but the output was 
over 4 gigs in size.  I tweaked the output settings and encoder settings but 
was not able to get the size down without severely compromising the quality 
of the video itself.



So here is my dilemma.  I have an AVI, lets say its great quality and lets 
say that its 800 mb in size.  I want to edit it down to 600mb in size and 
add a few simple titles, transitions, etc.  Am I to assume that adobe 
premier does not have the ability to do this. . . I believe that it does, 
but for the life of me I have not been able to figure out how to keep the 
video resolution as good as it is in the original without bringing the file 
size to some huge sizes.



Do I take it that when creating the actual AVI from the screen recording 
program I need to use a certain codec?  Is there a trick to this? Or are 
there other things I am simply missing.



Any assistance with regards to this will be greatly appreciated.



Thanks for your time,



The Flying Dutchman
Re: Source AVI = 700mb. . output is 2GIGS? Help - dont want to loose quality
#2
Author: DannyS
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:01
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It is important to know things like what codec was used for the input Avi 
file, was that the original or did you transcode?
what resolutioin is the input and is that the same as the output/project 
setting?
When rendering the project, to what format/codec did you do that?
What bitrate did you set for the output?

Now appart from that all, When using the Hypercam with the intention of 
edeting the file later on, you could opt to put compression on full frames 
as this means max quality, when rendering keep in mind the target audience 
and their equipment
A lot of mac users, then Quicktime is probably your best choise, lot of 
bussineses using PCs then probably Mpeg(1) is best
Though Avi using XViD or DiVX codec are great for filesize, these codecs 
aren't standard available on windows and should therefore not be used for 
your kind of material

Did you make a custom project, with the resolution set to the same as 
Hypercams resolution at the time of the screencapture?

As you can see more then enough reasons for the file getting so big

Oh if you intend to use mpeg and for that the mainconcept plugin/encoder, 
search the internet for "MVCD template" these are template that make it 
possible to get better quality at lower bitrates and can be played by all 
software mepg encoders/players and by most DVD players (VCD or SVCD)

Regards

Toudiyama



"The Flying Dutchman" <someone@jolly.com> schreef in bericht 
news:vMD0g.107$FE7.81@fe09.lga...
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
>
> I have a most perplexing dilemma involving adobe Premiere 8.0 - the 
> academic edition.
>
>
>
> Using a program called Hypercam 2.0 I am able to record whatever I may be 
> doing on a computer with sound for training purposes.
>
>
>
> Recently I recorded a 1.5 hour demonstration and was able to spit it out 
> into the form of an AVI without issue.  The end file was about 790mb in 
> size.
>
>
>
> Since this was for training for my company, I went over to my trusty Adobe 
> Premier and edited out a few portions, added in a few titles and put a 
> transparent company logo on the bottom right hand corner of the entire 
> presentation.
>
>
>
> Of course, rendering the darn thing took three hours, but the output was 
> over 4 gigs in size.  I tweaked the output settings and encoder settings 
> but was not able to get the size down without severely compromising the 
> quality of the video itself.
>
>
>
> So here is my dilemma.  I have an AVI, lets say its great quality and lets 
> say that its 800 mb in size.  I want to edit it down to 600mb in size and 
> add a few simple titles, transitions, etc.  Am I to assume that adobe 
> premier does not have the ability to do this. . . I believe that it does, 
> but for the life of me I have not been able to figure out how to keep the 
> video resolution as good as it is in the original without bringing the 
> file size to some huge sizes.
>
>
>
> Do I take it that when creating the actual AVI from the screen recording 
> program I need to use a certain codec?  Is there a trick to this? Or are 
> there other things I am simply missing.
>
>
>
> Any assistance with regards to this will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
>
>
> The Flying Dutchman
>
> 
Re: Source AVI = 700mb. . output is 2GIGS? Help - dont want to loose quality
#3
Author: The Flying Dutchman
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:11
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Danny,

Thank you so very much for your advise and information.  Its wonderful to be 
able to share knowledge openly.  I am saving your recommendations and will 
try the same one by one in experimentations until I achieve the desired 
results.

Regards,

Dutch

"DannyS" <toudiyama@fiberworld.nl> wrote in message 
news:HOOdnSp4y7T4UdrZRVny1w@fiberworld.nl...
> It is important to know things like what codec was used for the input Avi 
> file, was that the original or did you transcode?
> what resolutioin is the input and is that the same as the output/project 
> setting?
> When rendering the project, to what format/codec did you do that?
> What bitrate did you set for the output?
>
> Now appart from that all, When using the Hypercam with the intention of 
> edeting the file later on, you could opt to put compression on full frames 
> as this means max quality, when rendering keep in mind the target audience 
> and their equipment
> A lot of mac users, then Quicktime is probably your best choise, lot of 
> bussineses using PCs then probably Mpeg(1) is best
> Though Avi using XViD or DiVX codec are great for filesize, these codecs 
> aren't standard available on windows and should therefore not be used for 
> your kind of material
>
> Did you make a custom project, with the resolution set to the same as 
> Hypercams resolution at the time of the screencapture?
>
> As you can see more then enough reasons for the file getting so big
>
> Oh if you intend to use mpeg and for that the mainconcept plugin/encoder, 
> search the internet for "MVCD template" these are template that make it 
> possible to get better quality at lower bitrates and can be played by all 
> software mepg encoders/players and by most DVD players (VCD or SVCD)
>
> Regards
>
> Toudiyama
>
>
>
> "The Flying Dutchman" <someone@jolly.com> schreef in bericht 
> news:vMD0g.107$FE7.81@fe09.lga...
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a most perplexing dilemma involving adobe Premiere 8.0 - the 
>> academic edition.
>>
>>
>>
>> Using a program called Hypercam 2.0 I am able to record whatever I may be 
>> doing on a computer with sound for training purposes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recently I recorded a 1.5 hour demonstration and was able to spit it out 
>> into the form of an AVI without issue.  The end file was about 790mb in 
>> size.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since this was for training for my company, I went over to my trusty 
>> Adobe Premier and edited out a few portions, added in a few titles and 
>> put a transparent company logo on the bottom right hand corner of the 
>> entire presentation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, rendering the darn thing took three hours, but the output was 
>> over 4 gigs in size.  I tweaked the output settings and encoder settings 
>> but was not able to get the size down without severely compromising the 
>> quality of the video itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> So here is my dilemma.  I have an AVI, lets say its great quality and 
>> lets say that its 800 mb in size.  I want to edit it down to 600mb in 
>> size and add a few simple titles, transitions, etc.  Am I to assume that 
>> adobe premier does not have the ability to do this. . . I believe that it 
>> does, but for the life of me I have not been able to figure out how to 
>> keep the video resolution as good as it is in the original without 
>> bringing the file size to some huge sizes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do I take it that when creating the actual AVI from the screen recording 
>> program I need to use a certain codec?  Is there a trick to this? Or are 
>> there other things I am simply missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any assistance with regards to this will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your time,
>>
>>
>>
>> The Flying Dutchman
>>
>>
>
> 
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