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No, I don't know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

Oh man, I was white-knuckled!



Even with my professional hands-on experience and knowledge as a designer,
copywriter, and marketing person, plus the ability to bring some good
marketing ideas to the table,


Neil, is there a good forum, that exchanges dialog on marketing and
marketing ideas? I realize that in the Adobe forums that it is taboo and I
could use some brainstorming every now and then.


there is all-too-often little respect from some
> so-called "clients" who shop by price as if they were buying gas, and who will
> settle for some wet-behind-the-ears kid who "knows" every creative
> application, and who will attempt to do the same design work for a song.

I just got shopped out when a brand-spanking new graduate said he could do
it all, even the photography (which I only use a professional, commercial
photographer). Yes, I learned to use a 35mm in school (25 years ago), but
that doesn't make me a photographer. Oh wait, its digital today, I am sure
that I am a professional now!

He convinced the company that he was the wonderboy with all that. He said he
had a lot of experience, how can anyone tout they have experience when the
just graduated the week prior.

I have since seen his work and he ought to be ashamed of himself for using
the name "Graphic Designer". I rarely slam anyone, but this was a head on
collision in the making and I was the only one that saw it coming and I
don't like computer operators telling the world they are designers.

He convinced himself that he was a well-seasoned designer and sang the song
well. Funny, found out after he began the work that he aspires to be a
politician, well I think he'll make it on the song-and-dance theory.

My soapbox is empty now!