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Started by Peter Cammaert
Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10
Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Peter Cammaert
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10
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This may be an old problem but I'm still fighting it. Checking AdobeForums again and again (just to make sure) did not turn up a solution.
Summary: whenever I use MS-Word to make a PDF file through Acrobat Distiller, "most" Type 1 fonts are converted into those pesky MSTT... approximations.
Environment: MS-Word 2000, Windows 98SE, Acrobat 3...then 4...now 5.0.5, Adobe PDFMaker 5.0, Adobe PS Driver 4.5.3 (007), ATM 4.1
Acrobat Distiller is the default printer (even when adding/removing fonts) and uses AdobePS 4.5.3
Made a document containing Type 1 fonts. Times, Helvetica, Symbol and Zapf Dingbats. Rendered into PDF using Distiller and various settings.
Constant ones: - Embed all fonts ON (Acrobat)
- Always embed list = empty (Acrobat)
- Never embed list = empty (Acrobat)
- Don't use printer fnts OFF (PSCRIPT)
- Send Type 1 as Native (PSCRIPT)
- Send TT as Type 42 (PSCRIPT)
- Threshold for bitmaps = 0 (PSCRIPT)
Variable ones: - Subset embedded fonts ON/OFF (Acrobat)
- Substitute printer fonts for TT ON/OFF (PSCRIPT)
I know that there were substitution problems with the Base 14 Type 1 fonts inside Windows. But Symbol and Zapf always end up embedded in the PDF as original Type 1 fonts. Not so for Helvetica and Times.
OK so substitution won't work for these fonts, right?
But neither does it for stuff like Syntax, or AGaramond or AvantGarde or anything else I have. Always converted into MSTT... fonts
ATM.ini correctly lists all active Type 1 fonts. Initially WIN.ini did this as well, until I found out that AdobePS never looks in WIN.ini.
Usually I peek in the Acrobat Document Properties->Fonts dialog to check for any changes. In the beginning I checked the generated Postscript output as well, and from this I know that it must be the AdobePS driver that produces those MSTT... requests, and not Distiller (as far as I can see).
BTW I get the same results with AdobePS v4.50 (034), the one that comes with Acrobat 5.0.5 (I think). Printing directly to the Adobe Distiller printer (instead of using PDFMaker) doesn't make a difference either.
Finally, InDesign 2 and PageMaker work fine, probably because they contain PDF-generation code inside the program and do not use AdobePS to generate PDF files (my guess)
Any help or pointers to relevant information is appreciated.
Peter
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Aandi Inston
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06
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I can only say that I used to suffer from this, and various combinations of changing and reinstalling printer drivers eventually seemed to make it go away. Aandi Inston
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:29
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:29
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One thing that you don't tell us is whether you actually have the Helvetica and Times Type 1 families installed via ATM on your system. Let's assume that you do for the time being. The next question is whether you have ATM Lite 4.1 or ATM Deluxe 4.1. If you have ATM Lite 4.1, it is possible that if your copy was an "early" copy of ATM Lite 4.1, it is incompatible with the AdobePS 4.4.x and later (including the versions you have installed). Uninstall the current ATM Lite 4.1 you have and download the latest version (actually 4.1.1, but labelled as 4.1) and install it. Then try again. - Dov
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Peter Cammaert
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:49
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:49
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I do have these installed whenever necessary. One of the Adobe Technical Documents suggested to uninstall all fonts, all printer drivers, wipe clean win.ini and so on, and then reverse the process. By the second time I had to do this, I started throwing out all unneeded fonts and put the remainder in sets. Currently I got two sets that I can turn on/off at will: Base 14 with the standard fonts that all PS printers carry, and a second one with some miscellaneous fonts (like AvantGarde, AGaramond etc.). In case I read your remark wrong: They're all installed via ATM because I don't know of any other methods of using Type 1 fonts on Win98SE (do you? maybe that would solve my problem...) I don't have ATM Lite. I use ATM Deluxe because that's what I bought a long time ago. I did read your official alert on Planet PDF (dated May 9th, 2000) about AdobePS 4.4 problems and a subsequent fix that would be released. But I haven't found any updates for ATM Deluxe on Adobe's site (except for some fix that solves setup/registry problems). I don't like to drop software we put money in, but trying ATM Lite 4.1.1 anyway seems like my best chance to solve this. I'll keep you posted. Thanks Peter
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Peter Cammaert
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:28
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:28
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Again no luck. Installing ATM Lite (version 4.1.2) instead of ATM Deluxe doesn't change a thing when I try to create a PDF file from MS-Word. All Type 1 fonts are still replaced by MSTT... substitutes except for T-1 Symbol and T-1 Zapf Dingbats. Weird. Is there anything else I can try? Peter
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Tim Murray
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:13
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 19:13
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Try the suggestions in "UPDATE (2001-11-16) Windows 2000/XP Zapf Dingbats Display Problem". I do it as standard procedure for nearly every Windows machine I encounter.
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Peter Cammaert
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:25
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:25
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Tim The steps in "UPDATE (2001-11-16)..." weren't very useful, since I'm using a Win98SE machine = no BPD files and the problems I've got are the inverse of the one described in the Dov's Update. But wait, your suggestion did give me an idea: what if only fonts listed in the PPD can be embedded in a Word-generated PDF file? It's just like that (see Adist5.ppd), Courier-Symbol-Zapf are just fine, the others get converted into MSTT... approximations. But I'm not there yet. Adding font specs to the PPD file isn't trivial. And even if the lines I add are syntactically correct, I'm still wondering whether I should also be deleting some sort of hidden font list (like the BPD files on Win2K). In short, tinkering with PPD specs isn't an improvement (yet). Peter
Re: Trouble getting Word to embed Type 1 in PDF
Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:07
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:07
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No, if your system is properly configured, any font that doesn't specifically prohibit embedding (TrueType or OpenType with font embedding restrictions) should be embeddable without a problem, regardless of anything in the Acrobat Distiller PPD file. And, as you noted, my posting of 2001-11-16 is totally and utterly irrelevant to your case since you are running Windows'9x/Me. If you are getting �MSTTxxxxxxx� fonts, it is indicative of some corruption in your registry and the inability of the operating system, ATM, and the PostScript driver (not PSCRIPT, use AdobePS) to communicate with each other. If you are using a printer driver instance created via the "Add New Printer" wizard using the PSCRIPT 4.0 driver, that would likely explain your problems. - Dov
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