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I would use geometry only as a last resort in a case like this. As Robin indicates, there are other ways to sort out which is what.

PageItems are ordered front-to-back in the pageItems collection, so, no, InDesign doesn't count them in the order they're added if you have them on different layers or if you have used send to front/back, etc.

But you can get at page items from a variety of perspectives. For example, you can use the layer object collection. In JS, unfortunately, you can't do:

myDoc.layers.item("Graphics").pageItems.itemWhose(parent == myPage);

but wouldn't that be nice? You can do that in AppleScript, I believe.

Dave