CS3: typography and end nested style delimiters

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5 total messages Started by andrea_laue Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:17

#857

Author: andrea_laue
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:17

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Hello,

I'm trying to trick InDesign into exporting INX files in which all nested style delimiters are marked by an ENS character (a processing instruction in the exported INX). This makes the transform to XML much easier, because you can group adjacent, like-styled text without actually processing that text to find instances of character delimiters.

I've written a JavaScript to process a layout, inserting an ENS character at every instance of any non-ENS delimiter (as defined in the paragraph style). The problem is that this seems to affect the layout in unanticipated ways.

All seems well -- the nested character styles are properly applied, and InDesign seems to be paying attention to the required character delimiters and ignoring the inserted ENS characters. Mostly.

In some cases, the ENS characters affect the typography of a paragraph. They seem to adjust applied kerning. The flow of text adjusts slightly at the insertion of the ENS character.

I'd much appreciate any input on how InDesign handles ENS characters, especially when they aren't called for by the nested style definition.

Thanks,
Andrea

Re: CS3: typography and end nested style delimiters

#858

Author: Dave_Saunders
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:28

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If the original is through a character and you insert an ENS after the character, it will cause the next nested style to fail. You'll need to change the definitions of the nested styles to be explicitly triggered by the ENS characters rather than what is triggering them now.

Dave

Re: CS3: typography and end nested style delimiters

#859

Author: andrea_laue
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:33

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for your speedy reply.

There are enough instances of nested styles that we're trying to avoid explicit ENS characters at all cost. There will be so many of them to enter!

So ENS characters affect the resolution of nested styles even when they aren't used as delimiters in the nested style definitions? Is InDesign essentially looking for either the declared delimiter *or* an ENS character?

If so, is there any way that can be overridden?

Thanks,
Andrea

Re: CS3: typography and end nested style delimiters

#860

Author: Dave_Saunders
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:48

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Yes, that's how it works, and I don't think there's anything you can do about it.

The other approach would be to remove the nests altogether, replacing them with explicit calls on the character styles. I thought I saw some talk of a script that does just that, here in the forum in recent weeks.

I'm in a meeting right now and don't have time to search myself.

Dave

Re: CS3: typography and end nested style delimiters

#862

Author: andrea_laue
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:36

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Drat. Thanks what I feared.

The explicit calls to the character styles -- sounds interesting, but I'm not finding that thread. If you can retrieve it quickly, I'd much appreciate a link.

Thanks again for your help.

Andrea

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