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Re: Hyphens, Ens or Ems?

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From: Olivier Randier
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 21:31
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In article (Dans l'article) <ef8a431.21@WebX.aaQKaf7vad4>, "Thomas Phinney"
<tphinney@adobe.com> wrote (�crivait)�:

>I like Esmond's option #3 for setting the em dash, using thin spaces. 
>
>Personally, when designing fonts, I usually create my em dashes with space
on either side, and in any case I kern all my dashes extensively against
everything else, especially numbers. 
>
>The space within the em-dash glyph is not common Adobe practice, however,
since some people want to be able to put multiple em-dashes together to
make a solid rule. 

Adobe is right on that subject, but not only for that reason. If you kern
the dashes, adding space around it is useless. As a french typographer, I'm
often annoyed with such sidebearings. In french typography, we always use
dashes with spaces around, so if there are already built-in sidebearings to
them, we obtain spaces greater than the rest of the line. :(
I noticed the problem first with colon: our tradition is to put a space
before it. We consider that the relation between phrase elements before and
after it (a�:�b) is somehow identical to the equal relation (a�=�b). So the
space is supposed to be identical before and after. But, with fonts
designed in USA (even those of Adobe), with a greater left sidebearings, we
obtain a space before greater than the space after (a��:�b), which is ugly
and absurd. You could avoid problems in foreign countries by kerning those
signs instead of adding useless sidebearings to them. I know it makes more
work for you, but please try not to forgot there is a world around you.

-- 
Olivier RANDIER -- Experluette                        
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Subject: Re: Hyphens, Ens or Ems?
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