Article View: adobe.typography
Article #301Re: Ligatures in the academic world
From: Michael Kazlow
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:39
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:39
23 lines
2006 bytes
2006 bytes
Nope, just a comment on what I'm seeing. It is in a textbook being offered for sale by a major publisher through Coursesmart.com. It isn't a matter of encoding. The text is missing---all ligatures, all curly quotes or double qoutes. I'm used to seeing different characters due to encoding issues. The characters are just missing---on a Mac with Safari, Camino, Firefox and on Windows XP with MSIE 6 and 7. However, the placement of n and m-dashes are better in MSIE. On the mac side, the dashes literally pass through the characters on the left and right of the dash. Its not our typography that is the issue, but the conversion tools being used. PDF would be fine if they used them. Eventually, they'll either a) have better tools (unlikely) b) switch to pdf (I hope) c) start telling the people who prepare their books for print, not to use ligatures, etc since it screws up their online offerings (all too likely). Who knows, maybe they'll insist on having all their books created in ASCII using Courier. I look forward to the return of ASCII line-art---not. Mike
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<411FC937EF7C850A7E311C4343129D04@in.webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!feeder.news-service.com!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!news4us.nl!webcrossingReferences:
<683AD02CBD403C894118A88F190AB2E9@in.webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> <59b68c5e.1@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 1042b6,95ee9e99a2a11f17 X-Google-Attributes: gid1042b6,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit From: Michael Kazlow Newsgroups: adobe.typography Subject: Re: Ligatures in the academic world Message-ID: <411FC937EF7C850A7E311C4343129D04@in.webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:39:19 -0700 References: <683AD02CBD403C894118A88F190AB2E9@in.webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> <59b68c5e.1@webcrossing.la2eafNXanI> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!feeder.news-service.com!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!news4us.nl!webcrossing X-Original-Lines: 28