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12 total messages Started by Tom_Fussy Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52
Hebrew fonts?
#1029
Author: Tom_Fussy
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:52
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I am in N. America trying to purchase a Hebrew font for use in creating some bilingual documentation for a product my company will sell. We are trying, if possible, to use a Hebrew typeface that would be considered "compatible" with Frutiger. Problem is, I am not finding any Hebrew fonts at all on Adobe's website as is presented to me in N. America. Does Adobe have any Hebrew fonts? How can I access and purchase them?
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#1030
Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:11
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The only Hebrew font from Adobe is Adobe Hebrew that is packaged with Acrobat and Reader. It is more compatible with Minion (not minyan :-) ) than with a san serif such as Frutiger.

If you license the "ME" version of InDesign (not available directly from Adobe, but via Winsoft), you also get a bundle of OpenType fonts supporting Hebrew.

Ironically, a number of the TrueType fonts that come with Windows, including Times New Roman, Arial, Courier New, and Microsoft Sans include Hebrew characters in their support of Unicode. (The Macintosh versions of these fonts do not support Hebrew!) If you enable Hebrew support in Windows, some other fonts are also made available such as David.

There are companies, such as FontWorld, that do offer extensive collections of Hebrew fonts or fonts with Hebrew characters.

- Dov
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#1032
Author: Tom_Fussy
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 21:44
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Dov,

Thanks for the very detailed answer. That helps.
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#1031
Author: Ariel_Walden
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:51
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You can also try these links:

http://www.fontbit.co.il/
http://www.masterfont.co.il/

Ariel

PS Good one, Dov. Maybe tukka you should get Adobe to make a Hebrew version
of Minion and call it Minyan.
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#854
Author: Lawrence_Schofer
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:54
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MORE ON HEBREW FONTS
I use a PC, MS Word, Davkawriter, and QuarkXpress.
For Hebrew, I find it convenient to compose in Davkawriter and then copy to my Word document if the Hebrew goes into a mainly English document.
Word will read some of the fonts but not all - e.g., it does fine with AdiiG and with Guttman Calligraphic (I assume I got these with Davka).
THE PROBLEM:
I can't read the material into QuarkXpress. When I use "get text," which is the command to import a file, I get all ????.
The same thing happens when I try to copy and paste.
Quark has a facility to change the font, but these Hebrew fonts come up as ??? as well.
Can someone suggest how to get Hebrew fonts into Quark (or perhaps some other page layout program?)
Thanks,
Larry
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#855
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:16
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Lawrence,

Due to limited language capabilities in QuarkXPress, could it be that you really need Passport to read the font?

Neil
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#856
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:17
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Or you can use InDesign -- although I'm not sure if you need to use InDesign ME... (Middle Eastern). And InDesign gives tighter integration with the rest of the Adobe suite.

Neil
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#857
Author: Bob Levine
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:39
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> although I'm not sure if you need to use InDesign ME

Right to left language require ME. You can read the font in the standard 
versions but you can't type RTL.

Bob
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#858
Author: Lily_Elbit
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:11
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I'm looking for a NON-Hebrew font which exactly fit in its sizes to the following Hebrew font:
"-hebrew-fixed-bold-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-8"
Is there a site where can I find or ask for conversions of fonts from Hebrew to English?
Thanks,
Lily.
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#859
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:48
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Lily, 

      Is there a site where can I find or ask for conversions of fonts from
      Hebrew to English?




Can we assume that you mean converting it for LTR typesetting rather than actual language translation?

Neil
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#860
Author: UncleMarky07
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:36
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ALSO TO NOTE:

-Acquiring the Hebrew fonts for typesetting multiple language document may not be enough. If you require right-to-left (Hebrew) text flow (and perhaps Hebrew vowel support), then you will also require Adobe InDesign CS3-ME software, as English products do NOT support right-to-left text flow and other Middle Eastern typographic features.

-See: <http://www.fontworld.com> -for information on Adobe ME software. Use Coupon Code "Adobe Forum" for $50 OFF posted prices.

-You can prepare Hebrew (and other language text) within Adobe InDesign CS3-ME or import text from a word processor such as Microsoft WORD for Windows XP. To avoid headaches now and in future, try using only fonts with UNICODE support, most ideally in OpenType Font format.

-Hebrew Fonts can be made for use with right-to-left programs, such as Adobe InDesign CS3-ME;

OR

-use Hebrew Fonts can be made in non Unicode encoding in a LEFT-to-RIGHT text flowing method. The Left-to-Right non Unicode format would allow you to typeset Hebrew within English programs...

HOWEVER, you would need to enter text backwards, and would NOT have correct line-breaking (this would have to be manually handled), plus lack vowel support.

For anything of more than a line or two of text, the more ideal solution would be to use industry-standard Adobe InDesign CS3-ME with correct right-to-left text flow and correct line breaking and with added typographic features and with Hebrew vowel support, etc...

The trouble using non conventional methods such as preparing text in non Unicode word processor + copy/pasting to Quark or whatever English program... is down the road you may not be able to use this material when you decide to use the better InDesign-ME approach.

The ideal long term solution is InDesign CS3-ME -either preparing text directly within this program or preparing language texts with Microsoft Word for Windows XP. This is the solution educational, commercial and government users are using.
Re: Hebrew fonts?
#862
Author: Lily_Elbit
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:01
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yes
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