Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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11 total messages Started by Jayasri_Hart Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:16

#1139

Author: Jayasri_Hart
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:16

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My clients keep asking me to use True Type fonts they are familiar with from their Microsoft products. Is there a book or site which tells about selecting the closest match from the Adobe font library? Thank you for your help.

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 07:32

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Why not just use the TrueType fonts?

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:51

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Jayasri,

If these are high-quality TrueType fonts, there is no reason why you cannot use them, assuming that you are abiding by the EULA for the fonts.

Neil

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Jayasri_Hart
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:01

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Thank you, Thomas and Neil, for your input. I often can't find true italic and bolded versions and the client sends me the regular font asking me to add italic and bolding. This has just happened with Calisto MT. I am pretty ignorant about typography, so I thought I should take this opportunity to learn. What is "EULA for the font" and what is the best way to find out about such things?

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Jayasri_Hart
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:23

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Just googled EULA for MS fonts and found the following <http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/eula.htm>

"You may not rename, edit or create any derivative works from the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, other than subsetting when embedding them in documents."

What restrictions does that place on outlining, placing and resizing? Any workaround sources would be much appreciated.

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:35

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I see that bold and italic versions of Calisto are available (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/agfa/calisto-mt/). It's just a matter of getting your client to use them, or substituting them in at the last minute.

T

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:40

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Jayasri,

EULA is the abbrevation for the "End User License Agreement" that is associated with the product. It varies from type foundry to foundry -- and also by how the font is distributed by a particular foundry. For example, you can have more generous uses detailed if you purchase the font vs if you acquire.

From what I can tell from the language you quoted, Microsoft does not allow you to edit/modify and repackage the font as your own creation.

A subset of the font is not the complete font, but just the characters needed for the particular document. For example, you will see this as an embedding choice when creating PDFs with Acrobat Distiller.

I often can't find true italic and bolded versions and the client sends
me the regular font asking me to add italic and bolding.

Careful here. Under many circumstances, foundries will not let you "lend" or "borrow" a font -- you are expected to purchase your own licensed copy of it from the foundry or the foundry's licensed agent for use of the font to be legal. Otherwise, it could be deemed "piracy", which gets attorneys snapping their suspenders in eager anticipation.

As for a font that does not have true bold or italic, what happens when you select those variants from the application's font Style palette? Do you get a true bold/italic? Or do you just get an electronic bastardization?

Normally, there are no legal problems with electronic outlining, etc. for the job at hand. But you cannot sell any changed fonts.

Does this help?

Neil

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Jayasri_Hart
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:52

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Many thanks to both Neil and Thomas. I learned so much from your tips.

I followed Thomas' link to fonts.com (through myfonts) and bought the Calisto MT family from Monotype. This client loves the font, I like the look of it and reading about it made me think it will have many applications. No additional characters (small caps, ligatures etc.) have yet been added, so leaves room for any interested designers!)

Neil's questions made me look at my italics closely and guided me through the fonts.com site and licensing terms and agreement. One more issue remains. Since this font doesn't offer curly quotes, should I use those from Century which is similar and does have the extra characters?

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Herb
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:48

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" ..Since this font doesn't offer curly quotes ... "

Calisto MT does indeed include correct typographical quotes, both 
single and double. They're in the standard positions, Unicode 2018 and 
2019 for single quotes and 201C and 201D for double.

  - Herb

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Jayasri_Hart
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:40

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Thanks, Herb. I just discovered that after unzipping the font file and installing it. It's my first time buying a font and I appreciate everyone's patience.

Re: Adobe Equivalents of True Type Fonts?

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Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 03:37

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Jayasri,

Glad we can help. BTW, virtually all well-designed fonts have "curly" quotes. In some applications, you may have to turn that feature "on" for automatic insertion of typographer's quotes. But even automation isn't perfect, and you will probably have to manually insert the correct punctuation for stuff like '07, rock 'n' roll, etc.

Neil

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