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17 total messages Started by Daniel_Ulysses Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:22
Need help to find a program
#120
Author: Daniel_Ulysses
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:22
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Hola

My friend creat a font and needs to find a program to make it "work"
He creat it in Coral (they are all vectors) ask me for help, but I had never creat a font.

Do I need --or him-- to buy a program?
What is the best one?

Thanks for your help

Daniel Ulysses
Re: Need help to find a program
#121
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:27
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Daniel,

The best for proper font creation in the standard font formats is FontLab for Macintosh and Windows. But it is expensive and has a steep learning curve.

There is other software that is less expensive and has an easier learning curve. But I have no idea about how good these are. All have limitations. Some may have free trial downloads. These include:

FontCreator (Win)
Fontographer (Mac/Win)
ScanFont (Mac/Win)
TypeTool (Mac/Win)

Neil
Re: Need help to find a program
#122
Author: Herb
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:24
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He already has a program that can make fonts.  Corel Draw!

Yes, the best is Fontlab. but he can create a font directly from Corel 
Draw like this:

FILE/Export
Save as type:  TTF - Truetype font

(In some older versions of Corel Draw, it may be in the File/SaveAs 
dialog box instead of in the File/Export box)

You can only save one character at a time to a font, and the process 
isn't obvious. Google for

Create fonts Corel Draw

and you'll find many tutorials and explanations of exactly how to do it.

   - Herb
Re: Need help to find a program
#123
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:02
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Herb, 

      Save as type: TTF - Truetype font




Interesting that Corel can do that, albeit in a less-than-optimum way. Of course it creates just one font format, and unfortunately, not OpenType. But, I wonder how compliant with font standard specs Corel TT fonts are, or how it handles kerning, screen optimization, etc.

Neil
Re: Need help to find a program
#124
Author: Herb
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:27
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Neil -

Corel Draw has had this capability for a long time - since maybe 
Version 3 or 4 on Windows 3.1!

Calling it 'less than optimum' makes it sound even BETTER than it 
really is!

I've never taken one of its output fonts and looked at it with 
something like Font Validator to see what's missing, but a quick guess 
would say that it's missing everything but glyphs! Although it would 
have to have some default set of parameters (over which the user has 
no control whatsoever).

  - Herb
Re: Need help to find a program
#125
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:23
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<lol> So then, better than nothing. But not by much!

Neil
Re: Need help to find a program
#126
Author: Herb
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:25
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Yes, but like a talking dog, don't complain that it can't recite 
Shakespeare fluently, but marvel in the fact that it can talk at all!
Re: Need help to find a program
#127
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:14
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I hear that Corel-ware does have some redeeming features, though....

Neil <g>
Re: Need help to find a program
#128
Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:04
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I won't say anything unkind about CorelDraw in general, but I wouldn't trust a font generated from it as anything more than a novelty.

If "free" is a requirement, the open source "FontForge" is an option. If an inexpensive tool with a more approachable install process is desired, then TypeTool is probably the best of the lot. Of course, FontLab Studio or DTL FontMaster are the high end options.

Cheers,

T
Re: Need help to find a program
#129
Author: Bill
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:46
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On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, Daniel_Ulys...@adobeforums.com wrote:
> Hola
>
> My friend creat a font and needs to find a program to make it "work"
> He creat it in Coral (they are all vectors) ask me for help, but I had never creat a font.
>
> Do I need --or him-- to buy a program?
> What is the best one?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Daniel Ulysses

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CR8 Type Light is a free download.

Bill
Re: Need help to find a program
#130
Author: Bill
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:48
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On Jan 22, 10:22 pm, Daniel_Ulys...@adobeforums.com wrote:
> Hola
>
> My friend creat a font and needs to find a program to make it "work"
> He creat it in Coral (they are all vectors) ask me for help, but I had never creat a font.
>
> Do I need --or him-- to buy a program?
> What is the best one?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Daniel Ulysses

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Opps! Forgot to include the url for CR8 Type Light....

http://www.cr8.netfirms.com/typelight.html

Bill
Re: Need help to find a program
#131
Author: Don_McCahill
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:28
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Be aware that Photoshop, in particular, is very unforgiving about poorly constructed fonts, to the point where the program will not load (in Windows at least) if you have a bad font in your system (even if you don't plan on using it).

I would be very careful about a font created directly from Corel, and would want to test it on several machines (at least) to make sure it doesn't kill Photoshop, before releasing it on the world.

We really don't need any more defective fonts on the Internet, thank you.
Re: Need help to find a program
#132
Author: Jacob_Bugge
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:34
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Illustrator can be rather particular, too.
Re: Need help to find a program
#133
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:02
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Don,

Photoshop/Mac can be a font prima donna as well. Consider it as a shot across the bow, as sooner or later, the font issue(s), whether duplicate or currupted, will cause grief elsewhere on the computer.

Neil
Re: Need help to find a program
#12
Author: David_W._Goodrich
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:58
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I stumbled on this month-old discussion of using Corel Draw to make fonts, and thought of Adobe Illustrator's little-known ability to behave similarly via the evolving technology of SING glyphlets. Like Corel's Save-As-TTF feature, this only works for one glyph at a time -- not surprising as the idea behind SING glyphlets is to add a few characters to an existing font. The fly in the ointment is that for now this only works for recent East Asian versions. The process is the subject of a demonstration (in English and Chinese) over on the CCJK Type blog <http://blogs.adobe.com/CCJKType/2009/01/diy.html#comments> where I commented that non-CCJK folks would also like to try this out.

David
Re: Need help to find a program
#13
Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:21
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The SING technology itself works in all versions of InDesign, BUT...

- the Illustrator plug-in to make SING glyphlets only ships with the CJK versions of Illustrator, in Creative Suite configurations that include InDesign

- SING glyphlets are currently supported only in CID-keyed OpenType CFF fonts. So you can't add a glyphlet to a regular OpenType CFF or TrueType font.

Cheers,

T
Re: Need help to find a program
#18
Author: David_W._Goodrich
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:14
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The limitation to CID-keyed (OpenTypeCFF) fonts was another detail I'd failed to grasp: there's a lot going on here. Thank you, Thomas.

David
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