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Started by urbanman2004
Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:02
outlined fonts
Author: urbanman2004
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:02
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:02
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does anyone kno of any various outlined serif fonts. it doesn't matter if they are free or not.
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:14
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:14
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You can outline existing fonts with Illustrator, and stroke the weight. As every font has a distinct character, and will work better for some uses over others, how are you using the fonts? Neil
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Herb
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:22
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:22
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As Neil says, you can create your own with Illustrator (or Corel Draw,
or similar).
"Outline" is used to indicate two different things � either "hollow"
characters or those with lines around the outside of otherwise solid
characters.
There are a few serif fonts with outline variants that have been
produced by major foundries. Most commercial outline fonts are sans-serif.
For example,
Adobe:
Monotype Old Style Std Bold
Berthold:
Concorde
Bitstream:
Cooper Black
Windsor
Agfa/Monotype:
Barclay
Torino
Yearbook
Apostrophic Labs (free):
Street Slab
Googling for
outline fonts
will find you LOTS more!
- Herb
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:48
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:48
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Herb, As I learned it, fonts that are solid color, but with a knocked-out line following partly or completely around the letterforms are called "inline", not "outline" fonts. Outline fonts are those which have a "hollow" appearance, with their shapes defined by a line following the outer edge of the letterforms. Neil
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Herb
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:10
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:10
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I agree - but unfortunately, there's no consistency at all in actual usage. Even Adobe mis-uses the terms - see Industria Inline, for example. "Inline" has also been widely used for fonts that have just a relatively small amount of white space inside, such as Adobe's Pompeia Std Inline (same as Agfa's "CGAshley Inline"). Other often used and misused descriptors for similar effects include Open, Hollow, Engraved, 3D, and more. Let's not get started on "Gothic", which is widely used to describe two diametrically opposite kinds of fonts :) - Herb
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:18
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:18
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Herb, I agree! But, hey, you left out "incised", "shadow" or "shaded" fonts! Or even the odd use of "oblique" for Helvetica instead of "italic". <vbg> Neil
Re: outlined fonts
Author: urbanman2004
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:38
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:38
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thnx 4 da info neil... thats actually what i am looking for, in-line fonts. and also if possible if it was italicized.
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Don_McCahill
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:55
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:55
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Or even the odd use of "oblique" for Helvetica instead of "italic"
I have always considered these to be different terms. Oblique is when a font is just slanted by a certain percentage, while italic is a completely different design, based on a slant.
I think Helvetica now is more than just a slant, but I think that on the early postscript printers it was just slanted roman, when RAM was more precious.
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:54
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:54
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Don, Helvetica has always had a true italic, even going back to foundry and Lino days. I don't recall seeing a Helvetica "Oblique" (the windblown roman) except in rudimentary PC-created text documents where italic wasn't installed or perhaps properly selected. And then, Times and every other font would appear as oblique as well. When I began using Macs (around 1990-1991), my Apple PostScript printers generated proper itals. Neil
Re: outlined fonts
Author: Herb
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:09
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:09
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Somewhere in the last n years, I recall someone in the Microsoft typography department (or is that an oxymoron?) vigorously stating that san-serif fonts don't need italic versions. It may have been in response to someone asking why there was no Tahoma Italic. Arial's and Verdana's "italics" are really obliques. - Herb
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