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10 total messages Started by urbanman2004 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:02
outlined fonts
#1293
Author: urbanman2004
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:02
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does anyone kno of any various outlined serif fonts. it doesn't matter if they are free or not.
Re: outlined fonts
#1295
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:14
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You can outline existing fonts with Illustrator, and stroke the weight.

As every font has a distinct character, and will work better for some uses over others, how are you using the fonts?

Neil
Re: outlined fonts
#1296
Author: Herb
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:22
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As Neil says, you can create your own with Illustrator (or Corel Draw, 
or similar).

"Outline" is used to indicate two different things � either "hollow" 
characters or those with lines around the outside of otherwise solid 
characters.

There are a few serif fonts with outline variants that have been 
produced by major foundries. Most commercial outline fonts are sans-serif.

For example,

Adobe:
   Monotype Old Style Std Bold

Berthold:
   Concorde

Bitstream:
    Cooper Black
    Windsor

Agfa/Monotype:
    Barclay
    Torino
    Yearbook

Apostrophic Labs (free):
   Street Slab

Googling for
      outline fonts
will find you LOTS more!

   - Herb
Re: outlined fonts
#1298
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:48
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Herb,

As I learned it, fonts that are solid color, but with a knocked-out line following partly or completely around the letterforms are called "inline", not "outline" fonts.

Outline fonts are those which have a "hollow" appearance, with their shapes defined by a line following the outer edge of the letterforms.

Neil
Re: outlined fonts
#1300
Author: Herb
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:10
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I agree - but unfortunately, there's no consistency at all in actual 
usage. Even Adobe mis-uses the terms - see Industria Inline, for 
example.  "Inline" has also been widely used for fonts that have just 
a relatively small amount of white space inside, such as Adobe's 
Pompeia Std Inline (same as Agfa's "CGAshley Inline").

Other often used and misused descriptors for similar effects include 
Open, Hollow, Engraved, 3D, and more.

Let's not get started on "Gothic", which is widely used to describe 
two diametrically opposite kinds of fonts :)

  - Herb
Re: outlined fonts
#1302
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:18
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Herb,

I agree! But, hey, you left out "incised", "shadow" or "shaded" fonts! Or even the odd use of "oblique" for Helvetica instead of "italic". <vbg>

Neil
Re: outlined fonts
#1325
Author: urbanman2004
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:38
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thnx 4 da info neil... thats actually what i am looking for, in-line fonts. and also if possible if it was italicized.
Re: outlined fonts
#1327
Author: Don_McCahill
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:55
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      Or even the odd use of "oblique" for Helvetica instead of "italic"




I have always considered these to be different terms. Oblique is when a font is just slanted by a certain percentage, while italic is a completely different design, based on a slant.

I think Helvetica now is more than just a slant, but I think that on the early postscript printers it was just slanted roman, when RAM was more precious.
Re: outlined fonts
#1331
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:54
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Don,

Helvetica has always had a true italic, even going back to foundry and Lino days. I don't recall seeing a Helvetica "Oblique" (the windblown roman) except in rudimentary PC-created text documents where italic wasn't installed or perhaps properly selected. And then, Times and every other font would appear as oblique as well.

When I began using Macs (around 1990-1991), my Apple PostScript printers generated proper itals.

Neil
Re: outlined fonts
#1334
Author: Herb
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:09
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Somewhere in the last n years, I recall someone in the Microsoft 
typography department (or is that an oxymoron?) vigorously stating 
that san-serif fonts don't need italic versions.

It may have been in response to someone asking why there was no Tahoma 
Italic. Arial's and Verdana's "italics" are really obliques.

  - Herb
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