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9 total messages Started by Elizabeth_V_Butler Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:45
Custom scaling fonts?
#136
Author: Elizabeth_V_Butler
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:45
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I have created a logo that is essentially a stylized font. It's now saved as outlines, so I can manipulate the letters individually.

One of the things I did was shrink the capital letters of the company name just a bit. In other words, if the name of the company is: "Hamburger Paradise", the "H" and the "P" are a little bit smaller in relation to the lowercase letters.

It looks great, except that the thickness of the stroke of the "H" and the "P" is just a bit narrower than the rest of the letters. Anyone know how to scale these letters and keep the scale? I can probably fake it, but I'd like it to be completely accurate.
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#137
Author: Trez_Hane
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:43
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There is just no perfect answer. If the font has a small caps set, you might 
try scaling the initial caps up to fit your logo, but then they will likely 
be too thick. I would probably apply a stroke to the outlined letters and 
adjust its weight until it looked right.

Trez 
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#140
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:47
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Elizabeth,

I believe Illustrator (assuming that to be your application) has stroke settings that allow you to either scale the stroke or not as you change an element's size. That said, please post any followups to this application-specific question in the Illustrator forum for the best answers.

Thanks.

Neil
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#142
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:52
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Elizabeth,

If you mean the thickness of the strokes that make up the letters (and not a stroked outline around the letters), use truecut small caps (if available) for proper optical correction of the weight of the letterforms. Or you will have to in essence create the letters themselves and use your eye.

Thanks.

Neil
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#141
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53
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Elizabeth,

If you mean the thickness of the strokes that make up the letters (and not a stroked outline around the letters), use truecut small caps (if available) for proper optical correction of the weight of the letterforms. Or you will have to in essence create the letters themselves and use your eye.

Thanks.

Neil
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#143
Author: Don_McCahill
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:06
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You could convert the fonts to outlines, and carefully adjust the weight of the offending characters. This is not something that I would suggest to a rookie, but the fact that you noticed the discrepancy, and that it was wrong, makes me think you might have the eye to make such alterations effectively.
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#19
Author: Vern_Klukas
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:08
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I would try stroking first, but it might be a Don suggests and you are going to have to get in there with Illustrator or the like and manually tune the outlines to your satisfaction.

Yours
Vern
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#20
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:16
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Vern,

Stroking is generally a bad idea as it creates "faux bold", an electronic bastardization of the font. No human eyes involved.

Without trying to add confusion with using two different meanings of "stroke" in the same sentence...

...The weight changes are not applied appropriately or in proportion to the strokes of the letters (thin strokes being heavied up as much as heavy strokes by applying a fixed stroke around the letter forms. In addition, the width/height relationships need to be adjusted in small caps (generally, the width is increased in relationship to the height). Other letter components, such as serifs, are absolutely destroyed by electronic stroking.

If there is no true-cut small cap font that matches, then just as a good typographic designer would do, you have to do all adjustments by eye.

Neil
Re: Custom scaling fonts?
#21
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:18
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Vern,

Stroking is generally a bad idea as it creates "faux bold", an electronic bastardization of the font. No human eyes involved.

Without trying to add confusion with using two different meanings of "stroke" in the same sentence...

...The weight changes are not applied appropriately or in proportion to the strokes of the letters (thin strokes being heavied up as much as heavy strokes by applying a fixed stroke around the letter forms. In addition, the width/height relationships need to be adjusted in small caps (generally, the width is increased in relationship to the height). Other letter components, such as serifs, are absolutely destroyed by electronic stroking.

If there is no true-cut small cap font that matches, then just as a good typographic designer would do, you have to do all adjustments by eye -- without stroking.

Neil
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