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Thomas,

Thank you! Both are gorgeous and worthy of consideration for a broad range of projects. And special kudos to you for the brilliant realization of Hypatia Sans Pro.

I look forward to putting both through their paces.

Neil

The faces are great, but the PDF for Hypatia Sans Pro�

Whose idea was it to show the Cyrillic text in the PDF with a shortened Russian alphabet that leaves out compound characters like й, Й, ё and Ё ?

Those are letters on their own right, not vowels with diacritics over them.

Ah! I see that �, �, �, � are missing from the Latin text sample, though the K, a distinctly non Latin glyph was included.

Hmmmm� At least it's equal-opportunity alphabet misrepresentation. :D

Is the registration incentive only for those who license the whole suite, not just individual components like Photoshop, Illustrator or InDesign?

The registration incentive is available for the individual CS3 products as well.

Given the breadth of the extended Latin and extended Cyrillic coverage in both Hypatia Sans and Arno Pro, some compromises had to be made in any general-purpose samples. (Hey, Hypatia supports Bashkir!) When they're posted, the glyph complement PDFs will show every glyph in each font.

Regards,

T

The Arno face looks cool. Who designed that other monstrosity though?

(Just kidding Thomas ... it also looks great, and I will be thrilled when I get a chance to play with it. I probably won't be upgrading until fall though ... I need to let the eager beavers find all the bugs and problems in the programs.)

      I need to let the eager beavers find all the bugs and problems




No guts; no glory! I'll be getting upgrades relatively early, but it will still take months before I actually try out everything new. Maybe longer. <g>

Neil

      Hypatia Sans as an optional registration incentive




Is this an equal opportunity, Thomas, or only for US customers?
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I was of the impression that it's available worldwide, but I could be mistaken. I'm inquiring....

T

Thank you, Thomas. For the record, Brioso Pro Opticals was not available worldwide as a regitration incentive with CS2.

      Brioso Pro Opticals was not available worldwide




As noted here, indeed!
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> Brioso Pro Opticals was not available worldwide as a regitration incentive with CS2.

That was CS, wasn't it? As I recall, Garmond Premier Pro was the registration incentive for CS2, and it was avilable worldwide.

I believe Dominic is correct that Garamond Premier Pro was available worldwide. In the CS1 cycle the whole thing was considered "experimental" so they just did it in the USA or something like that.

Anyway, I checked with the source, and Hypatia Sans is available as a reg incentive with the Creative Suite 3 Web and Design configurations, in all languages except Simplified Chinese. It's also available with the English, French, German, Swedish (when it exists) and Japanese versions of InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, AfterEffects, Premier, Encore and Soundbooth. Plus the Chinese Traditional and Korean versions of Photoshop and Illustrator.

Note that for any of these, it doesn't matter what country you're in when you register, just which version of the software you bought. You could be registering the Swedish version of InDesign in Antarctica.

Regards,

T

      You could be registering the Swedish version of InDesign in Antarctica.




Hmmmm....I can see it now: the best-looking treatise ever written on the mating habits of Ross Sea krill.

Neil

Thank you (Dominic & Thomas) for the clarification: you are correct that it was indeed the CS version, not CS2. My bad! :")

I'm very happy that Hypatia Sans will recive a wider audience, it certainly deserves it, Thomas. Nice work indeed, you must be very happy with the result!

Thank you, T. Hypatia looks great and fills a real need in Russian.

Hey, Thomas, I notice Arno Pro has both caption and small text masters. Is this likely to be the case for all new pro typefaces with opticals or is it to be reserved for only special occasions? As someone who loved MM fonts (and is missing the optical master flexibility they provided), I'm all for increasing the number of optical masters available for a font.

Brioso Pro Opticals was advertised as being a registration incentive for US, and I believe Canadian, CS purchasers only, but this UK-based buyer pressed that particular button and downloaded the fonts with no problem.

:-)

This US-based forum host will never tell! <g>

Neil

Dominic: Good question. I haven't actually discussed this with my colleagues, but I won't be surprised if five sizes becomes the "new standard" for our new typefaces with optical size variants. I'm down in San Jose for a few days, so I'll be sure to bring this up some time tomorrow.

Cheers,

T

I downloaded Hypatia free after buying CS3 and the zip file seems to be corrupt. Can anyone offer advice? Tried downloading it multiple times, opening on multiple machines, etc... Error says "Unable to unarchive "HypatiaSansPro.zip" into "Desktop". (Error 2 - No such file or directory.)

HD,

Sounds like a call should be made to Adobe customer support.

Neil

I see in another thread Houston Designer seems to have resolved his problem (though by unzipping and rezipping on a Windows machine).

Dominic: Robert Slimbach has a typeface in development where he's experimenting with having seven optical sizes. So I'd say we may very well have five or more in other future typefaces.

Regards,

T

Thomas,

That's good news! It sounds like we're getting closer to the flexibility we had with MM fonts. It occurs to me that MM fonts custom instances would have been mechanically generated. As Slimbach is designing each of the seven weights, I see an advantage of optical hand tweaking each one, which MM can't do.

Neil

Hand tweaking things at specific optical sizes is certainly possible - Robert Slimbach did this extensively in Garamond Premier, for example. However, I suspect that most of the time, type designers will rely solely on interpolation for optical size.

Regards,

T

[sigh...]

I hear you, Thomas. That would be a shame. In the foundry days, tweaking for every size was part and parcel of creating any typeface.

Neil

Where does one download Hypatia Pro from? I was promised an e-mail with further details after I registered, but I haven't heard back yet.

Lou, I actually had the same issue with mine, and had to call customer service to have them resend the email.

I think there's some kind of small bug in the registering system, as a friend of mine also had to do the same as well.

I gather emails didn't go out until the 25th. If you registered after that and don't receive your email within 24 hours, odds are it got caught by your spam filter. I know mine did.

Regards,

T

Thanks for the info on optical masters, Thomas. I'm happy to see more masters, whether or not they're individually adjusted by hand, and having seven masters is terrific.

Thanks, Thomas and Jonathan.

After a rough start (no reply after 48 hours on the Adobe support web site; a followup call for 45 minutes with an Adobe customer support person that eventually got dropped) . . . then, lo and behold! An e-mail in my inbox with a link to the incentives. Yay Adobe!

I was tempted by the free training, but overall Thomas's beautiful typeface won the day.

Thanks.

Well, on May , I bought Photoshop CS3 online, paid, downloaded OK... authenticated, installed, allowed, accepted, ingested, stamped, donated, activated and REGISTERED.

Got a serial number by email; got a order acknowledgment by email. All very good as I was taken totally unaware by the expiration of the CS3 beta! :(

As to my Free Registration Bonus Gift (the Hypatia font) ... not a peep.

eo

Eric,

I installed CS3 via physical purchase. And there was a mechanism in place (not that I remember the details, mind you...) upon registration to view and choose my bonus, select the font, and download.

If that wasn't available or if you missed it, why not call Adobe Customer Service and ask.

Neil