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Started by Diana_Donovan
Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:33
Using whole numbers and fractions in Garamond Premier Pro
Author: Diana_Donovan
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:33
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:33
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I guess I must be missing something obvious. Can anyone tell me, using Garamond Premier Pro, if I type 4 3/8, why I'm gettting the case fraction for 3/8, which is wonderful, but the "4" is also situated on the line as though it were a numerator? How do I get the 4 to sit on the baseline? Also, is there a way to control the typographical weight of the case fraction so that it does not print lighter than the whole numbers do? Thanks.
Re: Using whole numbers and fractions in Garamond Premier Pro
Author: John_Nolan
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:31
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:31
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I presume you're using a program that supports OpenType: When using the fraction feature, you must take care to select only the numbers that you wish to include in the fraction; the fraction feature has no way of determining if you mean "five and one sixty-fourth" or "fifty-one sixty-fourths" if you invoke the fraction feature across the whole range of "51/64". The fraction should already match the weight of whole number, since, if you're using an app that supports the OpenType fraction feature, you should be getting "designed" fractions.
Re: Using whole numbers and fractions in Garamond Premier Pro
Author: Diana_Donovan
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:15
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:15
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Oh, sorry. I'm using InDesign CS2 in Windows XP on a laptop with a current PC system. In the paragraph style I have checked "fractions" under Opent Type features. I simply typed "4 1/2" and the 4 and 1 are in numerator position. What I'm confused about is this: since the program is apprently taking all numbers to be fractions, how do I differentitate to InDesign that I want some numbers to be baseline standard numbers and some as fractions? In Word, for example, the program figures out by default (with certain settings) which numbers are baseline and which are case fractions. In InDesign, do I have to set the paragraph style WITHOUT checking Open Type fractions, and create a character style for fractions, which has Open Style fractions checked? This seems unwieldy. And I'd like the case fractions I create to have the same typographical weight as the baseline numbers. They seem to come out lighter, no matter what I do. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Using whole numbers and fractions in Garamond Premier Pro
Author: Diana_Donovan
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:29
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:29
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Oh, sorry. I'm using InDesign CS2 in Windows XP on a laptop with a current PC system. (I forgot this forum isn't only for InDesign.) In the paragraph style I have checked "fractions" under Open Type features. In one of those paragraphs, I simply typed "4 1/2." The "1/2" came out nicely as a case fraction; the 4 also came out in numerator position. What I'm confused about is this: since the program, with fractions selected under Open Type features, is apprently taking all numbers to be fractions, how do I best differentitate to InDesign that I want some numbers to be baseline standard numbers and some (those surrounding the slash character) as fractions? In Word, for example, the program figures out by default (with certain settings) which numbers are baseline and which are case fractions. In InDesign, do I have to set the paragraph style WITHOUT checking Open Type fractions, and create, for each fraction, a character style which has Open Style fractions selected? This seems unwieldy. I'd also like the case fractions I create to have the same typographical weight as the baseline numbers. They seem to come out lighter, no matter what I do. Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Using whole numbers and fractions in Garamond Premier Pro
Author: John_Nolan
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:32
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:32
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Yes, Diana, fractions should be a character based attribute, to avoid the sort of thing I referred to. I don't know how Word works in this case, it _seems_ as if it would have to read your mind to be reliable. You can set a character style for fractions, and assign it a keyboard shortcut if that helps. As to the weight, try inserting a few fractions with the glyph palette to ensure you really are getting the true fractions built into the font. The weight looks okay to me; have you printed out the fractions, or are you just judging on screen? If you're convinced the fractions are too light, you could try changing to the caption weight as part of your fraction style - those figures are a little darker.
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