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Bill,

For a long time, Corel has bundled a bunch of fonts of varying quality with their software. If they are Corel's proprietary bundled fonts, you may not be able to purchase them separately.

Corel currently bundles 1000 OT fonts with their Suite. See: <http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=CorelCom/Layout&c=Product_C1&cid=1150836020206&lc=en> Maybe other products as well.

But this particular calligraphic font looks a heck of a lot like some old "Fluent Laser Fonts" I bought for my first Mac some 16 years ago.

Neil

Neil-

That was my first thought too - we have all the CorelDraws going back to version 3 - but it's not in any of those collections. Anyway, I'm not really sure that the vector version came to us as a CorelDraw file originally; it just ended up being saved that way.

This customer has had their business cards done by a local thermographer in the past, but now they want us to do them. Our sales rep called the thermographer to ask the name of the font. She came back triumphantly with their response: "It's Avant Garde Gothic." Obviously, they don't want to tell.

Here's hoping someone stumbles onto this thread and recognizes the font. If not, there are lots of possible substitutions - we'll just have to sell one of them to the client!

-Bill

Problem solved - sort of.

I was looking through one of the "dime-a-dozen" font collections we have lying around and found a font called "Darwycke." It's a nearly perfect match except that it's designed with about a 15 degree slant. So our solution is to skew it at -15� and see how it looks. On top of that, though, it seems the thermographer has played with the glyphs themselves: the capital H isn't the glyph from the font, and the �'s don't "unskew" very well.

Thanks for your help - we'll take it from here.

-Bill

Glad to have been of assistance -- I think -- it sounds like you've done most of the work!

<g>

Neil

Well, I'm a little late, but Neil was right on target in post #1.

The font in question was indeed included in the "Fluent Laser Fonts" collection by CasadyWare, which later changed its name to Casady&Greene, and is now defunct. It was known as Dorovar Carolus or just plain Dorovar.

I believe it was digitized by the late Richard Ware, but I'm not sure if the design was by Robin Casady, the other half of the company.

I'm not providing any links because Richard Ware's fonts were withdrawn from the market after his death because of copyrights disputes with his estate, so any downloadable copies you find may or may not be legit.

There are many sites that claim it to be a freeware font, but I don't know how they come to that conclusion.

In any event, it is far from a good example of the better Fluent Laser Fonts.

Ram�n -

Thank you! The mention of "Dorovar" finally kicked something loose in my tiny brain. Wanna hear something really stupid? We have the font. It's loaded on my machine. On top of that, it was even active yesterday - so I have no excuse for missing it in the first place. Turns out it's in a folder (ATM Deluxe) of miscellaneous old calligraphic fonts that we hardly ever use. So thanks again for the info.

-Bill

Ah! Better late than never. Glad I could help.

ATM Deluxe? Wow...that brings back memories as well! <g>

Neil

ATM Deluxe has continued to work on the PC side, Neil, even though Adobe stopped supporting it. I still use it for font managment. (But wish there was something better ... all the good managers seem to be Mac only).

We'll keep using ATM Deluxe until it stops working (Windows Vista? I guess we'll see!). As Don has deduced, we're on Windows and ATM Deluxe has worked flawlessly for us since way back.

-Bill

ATM Deluxe is the late lamented and best font manager for the Mac. But Adobe never made a Mac OS X-compatible version...

[sigh...]

Neil

ATM Deluxe reportedly doesn't work properly on Vista.
 <http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2006/10/vista_atm_mm.html>

Regards,

T

On Jan 10, 8:16 am, Ramón_G_Castañe...@adobeforums.com wrote:
> Well, I'm a little late, but Neil was right on target in post #1.
>
> The font in question was indeed included in the "Fluent Laser Fonts" collection by CasadyWare, which later changed its name to Casady&Greene, and is now defunct. It was known as Dorovar Carolus or just plain Dorovar.
>
> I believe it was digitized by the late Richard Ware, but I'm not sure if the design was by Robin Casady, the other half of the company.
>
> I'm not providing any links because Richard Ware's fonts were withdrawn from the market after his death because of copyrights disputes with his estate, so any downloadable copies you find may or may not be legit.
>
> There are many sites that claim it to be a freeware font, but I don't know how they come to that conclusion.
>
> In any event, it is far from a good example of the better Fluent Laser Fonts.
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Casady & Greene:

http://moorstation.org/typoasis/designers/casady_greene/index.htm

I'll leave the copyright dispute to others.

Bill

"ATM doesn't work properly on Vista." Unhappily we're all waiting for this to happen some day. At Windows side, I still no found any font management tool better than ATM.

      I still no found any font management tool better than ATM.




That applies to the Macintosh world too. :(

I don't know why Adobe decided to turn its back on this great product. But I also suspect that many would quickly flock back to an Adobe solution, should Adobe ever decide to resurrect ATM Deluxe.

Neil

The reason was relatively simple. Sales were not sufficient to justify ongoing development, maintenance, marketing, sales, and support costs.

- Dov

Thanks, Dov.

A shame, though -- it was a damned good product!

Neil

Note that Extensis has just announced a new version of their Suitcase font manager for Windows.

Regards,

T

Re: Extensis announced ...

The press release for "Extensis Suitcase Professional for Windows" is at:

http://www.extensis.com/en/about/press_release_content.jsp;jsessionid=041VU3PX2ODBFLAQAAUARSQ?releaseId=6000020
OR this shortcut
http://tinyurl.com/2oxeeq

For the first time automatic font activation is being provided on a 
Windows platform.  It will only work for three applications, however: 
Adobe Indesign CS2, Illustrator CS2, and Quark Express 7. IMHO, while 
the function has been long-awaited, this limitation is bound to create 
user confusion.

  - Herb

Insider Software also has a beta version of Font Agent Pro for Windows at <http://www.fontagent.com>

Font Agent Pro is one of the better font managers for Mac.