Identifying Full Font Family Names from Acrobat "Properties"

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4 total messages Started by Chris_Souther Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17

#227

Author: Chris_Souther
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:17

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I routinely update PDFs where the originator is unavailable to question about typography issues. The problem I'm having currently, and continue to have, is that Acrobat (on V8) identifies font names differently from say...the Adobe Store.

For instance, currently I'm editing a PDF that uses fonts from the "HelveticaNeue" family. I don't have this font, so if I go over to the Adobe store and try to find it, I get multiple types of "HelveticaNeue" font, and none of them are exactly what Acrobat provides as the name.

For instance:
Acrobat says: HelveticaNeue-Black

Adobe store offers:
Helvetica Neue Std Black
Helvetica Neue 93 Black
Helvetica Neue 95 Black
and so on and so forth
But NO "HelveticaNeue-Black" is in the list.

Neither the spelling of the Acrobat font family, or the actual full name seem to match anything in the Adobe store.

So, does anyone know a way to figure out exactly which font family Acrobat has in the PDF?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Identifying Full Font Family Names from Acrobat "Properties"

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Author: Herb
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:29

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Chris Souther asked:
"Does anyone know a way to figure out exactly which font family 
Acrobat has in the PDF?"

PDF's may include individual fonts, not families. For the most part, 
the font names shown are the actual font names. Or, more precisely, 
the PS Font Names.

I'm looking at an older Type 1 font right now that has the following 
names in its name table (or at least the ones I can see in FontLab):

  Family Name:  Helvetica Neue
       Weight:  Black
   Style Name:  Regular
PS Font Name:  HelveticaNeue-Black
    Full Name:  Helvetica 95 Black
    Menu Name:  Helvetica 95
    Fond Name:  Helvetica 95

To prevent conflicts, Adobe did some name modification when they 
created OpenType versions of fonts:

The OTF version of the same font shows:

  Family Name:  Helvetica 95 Black
       Weight:  Heavy
   Style Name:  Regular
PS Font Name:  HelveticaNeue-Black
    Full Name:  Helvetica Neue 95 Black
    Menu Name:  Helvetica 95 Black
    Fond Name:  Helvetica 95 Black

It appears that either one of these might be the one used in your PDF 
- and they should be interchangeable.

Just to confuse things further, the fontnames for embedded subsets may 
be preceded by random 6-letter-and-a-plus-sign strings like HFTRDS+, 
or in some cases where the PDF isn't produced by Adobe Acrobat, 
TrueType fonts might have peculiar names like TT493875.

Note that with the exception of a small "webfonts' collection Adobe 
has never produced Truetype fonts. If, as you indicated in another 
gorup, you need to install these fonts, you need them in T1 or OpenType.

  - Herb

Re: Identifying Full Font Family Names from Acrobat "Properties"

#229

Author: Chris_Souther
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:11

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I think I follow, but my current PDF says the HelveticaNeue font is a Type 1, which, if I follow you correctly, should mean that I can find a "Helvetica Neue Regular" or plain old "Helvetica Neue" version on Adobe, but I can't.

Re: Identifying Full Font Family Names from Acrobat "Properties"

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Author: Thomas_Phinney
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:39

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The store does show the PostScript FontName for each font, I think down at the bottom of the sample page, IIRC. In any case, you want the Type 1 ("PostScript") Helvetica Neue 95 Black:

<http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFont&code=HELL10095000>

Cheers,

T

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