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13 total messages Started by Ashley_Spicer Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:03
Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#742
Author: Ashley_Spicer
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:03
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Adobe Product Support: Can anyone help me with info regarding the necessary fonts in this part of the Mac operating system. I have 10.4.9 and Adobe creative suites CS/ CS2/ and CS3. CS programs seem to use fonts loaded in Suitcase with priority over Adobe support fonts, but it seems that CS2 and CS3 use the Support fonts with priority over suitcase. I'd really like to remove all the Adobe fonts and manage all my fonts through Suitcase, can this be done? Also, how do these fonts get in there?
I am regularly using different sets of fonts to run jobs supplied by publishers and need to avoid the wrong font being used. I would really appreciate any suggestions.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
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Author: Dov Isaacs
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:45
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Please note that this forum is specifically a user to user forum, not a conduit for Adobe Product Support. Although some Adobe employees do monitor these forums, they are specifically not monitored by Adobe Technical Support!

- Dov
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#746
Author: Ashley_Spicer
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:59
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It's not addressed to Adobe Support Dov, it's a folder, I put that there to indicate where the font problem is. I take your point, but can't understand why they are specifically not looked at, they might get some feedback!
Can anyone else help?
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#748
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:43
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      I'd really like to remove all the Adobe fonts and manage all my fonts
      through Suitcase, can this be done?




Don't know about Suitcase any more (I was one of the earliest beta testers of Suitcase but moved away from it after Steve Brecher sold it), but in FAP, FontAgent Pro, the preferred font manager, you just point FAP to your hard disk's icon and let it Import all your fonts on the whole drive. FAP will manage them just fine,

      Also, how do these fonts get in there?




They're most probably in one or another of the proprietary Adobe fonts folders.

Do not, repeat: DO NOT take out any fonts from any of the Adobe Required folders.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#749
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:46
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Incidentally, Ashley, this is not even a Typography issue.

This is a direct quote from the very same page where you added this topic:




      Typography

      A place to talk about type, typography, and typesetting. Help each other
      identify typefaces. Get suggestions about what typefaces work well together.
      Offer opinions about spacing, justification, punctuation, and the like.

      However, for more technical questions about installing fonts, or working
      with service bureaus, and things like that you might find more help in
      the ATM/Type forums. Or for questions about how specific applications
      work with type it might be better to post in the product forums. Go to:
      <http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/index.html> for the complete list.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#750
Author: Ashley_Spicer
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:00
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Thanks Ram�n,
				I'll look into FontAgent Pro, I appreciate the productive feedback! Sorry I'm in the wrong place, I thought this would be an area that people who work with fonts might have some practical experience they could share.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#751
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:09
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No need to apologize, Ashley. It's just that you'd get faster and better help in the products forums.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#752
Author: Herb
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:16
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In fact, this isn't an application issue and this is the forum where 
such things often get discussed.

There is absolutely no reason not to take any fonts that any Adobe 
product, for its own legacy reasons, saw fit to install in its own 
private little hidey-places instead of installing them for the entire 
system, and install them to where they are accessible by all products. 
After making sure that you have backup copies, the ones in the Adobe 
locations should be removed. You definitely don't want two "live" 
copies existing at the same time.

Initially it would be ok, but if you updated or replaced one, life 
would get confusing!

Note that different Adobe products use different locations for their 
fonts - they may be in the same folder tree as the application, in a 
local adobe shared location, or in one or more of the the system's 
common or shared file locations.

   - Herb
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#753
Author: Ashley_Spicer
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:40
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Thanks Herb, that sounds like a very sensible approach.
I really don't need to make it any more confusing. Ha! Ha!
Thanks Again.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#754
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:56
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Herb,

I beg to differ. At least on a Mac, if you take ANY font in the Adobe folder named "Required" (actually "Rqrd"), the application just goes berserk.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#755
Author: Ashley_Spicer
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:34
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Thanks to everybody for helping out, I've taken all the fonts out of that folder, loaded them all as a font set through my font management and have left them unactivated. So far everything is running beautifully and it lets me use the version of "symbol" that I wanted to use. If I do run into any problems, I'll activate the fonts one at a time from my new set and see what's actually needed.
Thanks again.
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#756
Author: Herb
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:30
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Ramon

It certainly may be different under Mac OS, which I know next to 
nothing about � everything else about fonts is different, why not 
this! :).  Do the apps still go berserk if the removed fonts are then 
re-installed as any other Type1 fonts?

  - Herb
Re: Fonts in Adobe Product Support?
#760
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 05:25
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      Do the apps still go berserk if the removed fonts are then re-installed
      as any other Type1 fonts?





That I haven't tried, Herb. To be honest, I'm perfectly happy to leave the fonts installed by Adobe there and then let FAP manage them. The benefit is two-fold: they're then available to all applications system wide, not just Adobe's, and FAP prevents the font from being duplicated elsewhere.
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