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Started by JTill
Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:37
Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: JTill
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:37
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:37
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Notes from an amateur. I'm a field technician but I also write some documentation for my fellow technicians. This is nothing fancy, done in ten point font size, printed on the printer beside a desk at 600 dpi (sometimes 300), and then sometimes photocopied. I'm on a Windows operating system using various software. I want to acquire a few more serif text fonts. 1. What fonts are good to use? Many fonts (early Garamond versions, for example) are not so readable at 10 points size. Here <http://www.creativepro.com/story/howto/24908.html> is a helpful article, but I'm trying to get a little more. 2. Alternately, what fonts are not good? 3. Why is this area of font use seldom mentioned in font reviews or discussions or books? There are lots (and lots!) of people who could benefit. I would think anyone covering any body-text font should work this into the review. 4. Are there methods (research paths, whatever) I should be using to identify and acquire good robust fonts? How do I separate the fonts that are good for my purposes from the fonts that look great at 14 points, 1200 dpi on glossy paper?
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: Neil_Keller
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:58
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:58
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J, There are literally tens of thousands of fonts to choose from. But some are better at certain tasks than others. So, if you can tell us what kinds of fonts you are looking for what specific purposes -- book text, editorial or newspaper, email, faxing, etc., in what point sizes and reproduction methods, that would help. I would not print them at any coarser than 600 dpi on a laser -- 1200 dpi would be sharper, look better and be more readable. For offset reproduction from electronic files, this is not an issue. Generally choose conservative fonts from major, established foundries, such as Adobe, Monotype, Linotype, etc. for most purposes. Decorative, typewriter, swash, script and oddball fonts, plus italic, boldface, condensed, script, and typewriter fonts are poor choices for general text. Use them lightly and wisely. OK, that's a start -- but please get back to us with more detail on how these fonts are too be used. Neil
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: Ram�n_G_Casta�eda
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:13
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:13
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at 600 dpi (sometimes 300)
Few fonts hold up as well as ITC Galliard at those resolutions, in my opinion.
But, as Neil says, there's a lot more to choosing a font.
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: Don_McCahill
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:48
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:48
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The point size is only one of several considerations you need to make. Any ITC font has a large x-height, so it looks larger. Script fonts in 10 point can look smaller than 4 point ITC Galliard, because they have long ascenders and descenders, and a small body (x-height). As important for readablity is the length of the line (measure). It should be between 60 and 90 characters to a line. If you get much higher than this, and it will be hard to read the line without dragging your finger along it (like you did in grade four). Increased leading (space between lines) can help, but it is better to use a larger font. I disagree with about half of that article, probably because it was talking about brochures, and you are doing documentation. That is like studying up on the digestive system when you have to do some brain surgery. As Ramon says, there is a lot to choosing a font. We will help if you want. Others have posted links to pdfs of their plans, and we have critiqued them and offered suggestions.
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: Dominic_Hurley
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:14
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:14
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> if you can tell us what kinds of fonts you are looking for what specific purposes ... in what point sizes and reproduction methods, that would help. JTill did say he/she was a field technician writing documentation for fellow technicians in 10pt and that the documents are printed on an office printer at 600dpi and may subsequently be photocopied, so I think that's enough to make a few recommendations. Basically, JTill, I'd say you want a font that has a reasonable x-height and if you go for a serif font, you want one that isn't delicate (for want of a better word), because these suffer at 300dpi or when photocopying. As Ramon said, Galliard is an option. So are Palatino, Stone Serif, Warnock, and Slimbach. If you want a sans serif face, perhaps look at Myriad, Stone Sans, Gill Sans, and Futura.
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: Les_O_Neill
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:04
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:04
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My recommendations would be PMN Caecelia (Adobe), FF Scala (Fontshop International) or ITC Charter, chunky slab serifs which hold up well under adverse printing conditions.
Re: Serif fonts at 10 point, 600 dpi
Author: JTill
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:33
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:33
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Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions. I'll be taking a look at the fonts suggested in the next several days. J. Till
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