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Re: AMD linux Laptop

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From: Joseph L. Suttie III
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:00
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I have a sony PII 333 Viao with docking station.  If you run this out of the
docking you must use the flip out legs, the difference in operating temperature
is the difference between putting a fan on your cpu or not having a fan and
trying to get away with leaving the case off, it only works in super
air-conditioned rooms.  That is My laptop (as you may see from my setiathome
club, KC6SE) is running day and night doing extensive FFT calculations!  It gets
warm but it has not over heated.  I set the graphics to 256 colors 640 X xxx
since this seemed to draw out the time the it took to complete a seti data
unit.  I also use the machine for the photo shop and sony picture gate software
that came with it.  I should have gotten a higher speed cpu.  Note on the
difference between a mobile proc and desktop form sony's machines.  The mobile
proc is a special card still device with up too 64 megs soldered on board.  I
have since added (the max.) dimm 128 MB stick, it has helped.

As for laptops:
IBM make great machines, but their customer support is the thing to go for if
you have the money.  They pay the shipping to them, they pay it back and it is
like two to three working days for repair. (I know, the tech at C.S.U.@Fresno
had to return his when the docking connector got buggered up when it was begin
used in a car,  this was a problem with that model, the docking clamp was not a
strong connection.)

Next is the DELLs, their machines come with good graphics cards with video out,
now you can get them with DVD players, know what to do with that?
They have a wide range of machines, and i consider to be the best on the market,
they have good graphics cards, good network cards, good options in their docking
stations (standard PCI slots! add a monster 3d card!)  And many other options.
(So does NEC laptops, they can run Q3!  talk about powerful graphics)

Next is Sony.  I heard many good things and the one my friend had is still doing
duty for his family.  They were the lowest price that still offered DVD players
so I went with them (although now i would go with a dell).

All in all my laptop is limited by the CPU (no one can help you over come that,
accept the NEC my friend had, had a PII mobile, which he upgraded ! to a higher
proc speed)  But the most limiting is the graphics card, the less powerful it is
the more duty the cpu does for the graphics.  That is why my laptop takes 23 +
hours to do a setiathome unit on the highest resolutions, as opposed to 17 -1 8
hours on the lowest res/colors.

Have fun shopping and stick with athelons or PII  don't get sucked into using
cpus which are already over clocked.  Note on my seti page, my PII 400 Abit BX6
is as fast as my PIII 450 ABIT BE6, same memory, slightly more things running on
the PIII (The stupid CDR utility etc.) and two interlaced monster 3dfxs in the
PII.  They are equally loaded by most accounts and the PII does just fine when
it comes down to calculations.  (Note both machines are set to blank screen and
graphics spend, squeezing the system down to max. CPU calculation usage.)

Draco Ravenloft wrote:

> no.. you have that backward when referring to the Athlons. And P3s are buggy
> POSs.... I know people who have P3 500+s, they run worse, and slower than my
> roomate's P2 400.  And they crash all the bloody time.
>
> P3 sucks, and I have run my own tests on P2 vs AMD and found AMD to win out
> virtually everytime except under 1 screen saver and 2 programs that were
> specifically written for Intels.
>
> Sean wrote:
>
> > actully the P3 has a better artecture then the AMDs, the amds cache only
> > runs (at best) half of the actual CPUs clocking speed, the p2/3 runs full
> > speed. I have a dell celron that runs nice and cool.
> > Sean
> >
> > "Draco Ravenloft" <draco81@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:394E8848.3CC6E00E@swbell.net...
> > > I've been shopping around for Laptops that come with either Linux
> > > preinstalled or no OS at all....  So far I found a few resonable ones
> > > that have linux in them, but they run either a celery or a PII/III.
> > > PIIIs suck altogether, and with the exception of Sony VAIOs Pentiums +
> > > Laptop tends to = over heat problem.  I know a few companies make AMD
> > > laptops..... but I can't seem to find them.
> > >
> > > Anyone know if the lower resource drag from Linux.... might make the
> > > pentiums heat up less... or if anyone makes a laptop with a pentium in
> > > it besides Sony that keep really kewl... but also make them with linux
> > > (Dell makes linux based notebooks......  they get too hot?).   I've been
> > > shopping at linuxmall.com and stuff and can't seem to find much.
> > >
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From: "Joseph L. Suttie III" <kc6sye@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject: Re: AMD linux Laptop
Date: 2000/07/14
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