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2 total messages Started by Steve Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:23
Moving unmoveable clusters
#590
Author: Steve
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:23
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6067 bytes
I am having trouble moving unmoveable clusters in my Windows 98se system. I
removed all the system attributes (attrib *.* -h -r -s /s) and also disabled
the swap file but I still have about 5 clusters that can't be moved...
Unfortunately ONE of the clusters is right near the end of my current
partition so I can't resize my current 20 gig partition in order to make
room for Linux (Red Hat).
'Ausmosis' recommended that I try Partition Magic but I can't use this
program to make any changes without buying it. $70 USD seems a bit much just
to move one cluster... I read in a documentation about FIPS that I should
remove my mirror file but I don't know what this is or how to remove it.
Another subject that I found no help with online.
It also said the following:
b. There are hidden files in the space of the new partition that have not
   been moved by the defragmentation program. You can find the hidden files
   on the disk by typeing the command 'dir /a:h /s' (and 'dir /a:s /s' for
   the system files). Make sure to which program they belong. If a file is
   a swap file of some program (e.g. NDOS) it is possible that it can be
   safely deleted (and will be recreated automatically later when the need
   arises). See your manual for details.
I did this but the results meant nothing to me and I was not sure if I could
simply delete any of them or maybe use a boot disk and manually move them. I
have included the returned results from trying both commands at
the bottom of this message. If someone knows what I can do short of
reinstalling Windows I would really appreciate the help as I have spent
countless, fruitless hours on this...
Thank you

---------------------Steve

dir /a:s /s
Directory of C:\

VIDEOROM BIN        49,152  01-08-00  6:38p VIDEOROM.BIN
RECYCLED       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:48p RECYCLED
         1 file(s)         49,152 bytes

Directory of C:\My Documents

DESKTOP  INI           125  01-08-00  6:38p desktop.ini
         1 file(s)            125 bytes

Directory of C:\WINDOWS

FONTS          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p FONTS
WEB            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p WEB
FAVORI~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Favorites
DOWNLO~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Downloaded Program Files
TEMPOR~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Temporary Internet Files
COOKIES        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Cookies
HISTORY        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p History
INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  5:02p Installer
TASKS          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Tasks
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Directory of C:\WINDOWS\All Users

DRM            <DIR>        07-30-01  9:07p DRM
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer

USERDATA       <DIR>        10-04-01 11:37a UserData
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Total files listed:
         2 file(s)         49,277 bytes
        12 dir(s)        4,767.02 MB free

*******************************************************
dir /a:h /s
Directory of C:\

VIDEOROM BIN        49,152  01-08-00  6:38p VIDEOROM.BIN
RECYCLED       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:48p RECYCLED
         1 file(s)         49,152 bytes

Directory of C:\My Documents

DESKTOP  INI           125  01-08-00  6:38p desktop.ini
         1 file(s)            125 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files

INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:50p InstallShield Installation
Information
QMGR           <DIR>        08-01-01  8:50a QMgr
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer

UNINST~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:42a Uninstall Information
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Directory of C:\Program Files\Uninstall Information

HTMLHE~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:42a HTML Help
ICW            <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a ICW
ADDRES~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a AddressBook
OUTLOO~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a OutlookExpress
DXM_RU~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a DXM_Runtime
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Directory of C:\WINDOWS

INF            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:35p INF
SYSBCKUP       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:35p SYSBCKUP
PIF            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p PIF
SYSTEM   DAT     5,861,408  12-26-01 10:20p SYSTEM.DAT
USER     DAT       884,768  12-26-01 10:31p USER.DAT
APPLOG         <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p APPLOG
SPOOL          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p spool
SHELLNEW       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p ShellNew
RECENT         <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Recent
NETHOOD        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p NetHood
PRINTH~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:56p PrintHood
INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  5:02p Installer
MSDOWNLD TMP   <DIR>        07-30-01  5:03p msdownld.tmp
SHELLI~1           915,372  12-26-01  3:20a ShellIconCache
         3 file(s)      7,661,548 bytes

Directory of C:\WINDOWS\All Users

DRM            <DIR>        07-30-01  9:07p DRM
         0 file(s)              0 bytes

Total files listed:
         5 file(s)      7,710,825 bytes
        21 dir(s)        4,767.02 MB free
Re: Moving unmoveable clusters
#595
Author: Paul Markowitz
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:27
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6844 bytes
Dear Steve,
I don't know you but from your question I assume you are familiar with
reducing the size of the Windows partition using fips or druid. I cannot
find "exactly" how to specify the size mount points and what the size and
mount points should be.
Plaese Help I am sick of Windows.
Paul
"Steve" <steve39@optusnet.com> wrote in message
news:3c2a5c0b$0$21347$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I am having trouble moving unmoveable clusters in my Windows 98se system.
I
> removed all the system attributes (attrib *.* -h -r -s /s) and also
disabled
> the swap file but I still have about 5 clusters that can't be moved...
> Unfortunately ONE of the clusters is right near the end of my current
> partition so I can't resize my current 20 gig partition in order to make
> room for Linux (Red Hat).
> 'Ausmosis' recommended that I try Partition Magic but I can't use this
> program to make any changes without buying it. $70 USD seems a bit much
just
> to move one cluster... I read in a documentation about FIPS that I should
> remove my mirror file but I don't know what this is or how to remove it.
> Another subject that I found no help with online.
> It also said the following:
> b. There are hidden files in the space of the new partition that have not
>    been moved by the defragmentation program. You can find the hidden
files
>    on the disk by typeing the command 'dir /a:h /s' (and 'dir /a:s /s' for
>    the system files). Make sure to which program they belong. If a file is
>    a swap file of some program (e.g. NDOS) it is possible that it can be
>    safely deleted (and will be recreated automatically later when the need
>    arises). See your manual for details.
> I did this but the results meant nothing to me and I was not sure if I
could
> simply delete any of them or maybe use a boot disk and manually move them.
I
> have included the returned results from trying both commands at
> the bottom of this message. If someone knows what I can do short of
> reinstalling Windows I would really appreciate the help as I have spent
> countless, fruitless hours on this...
> Thank you
>
> ---------------------Steve
>
> dir /a:s /s
> Directory of C:\
>
> VIDEOROM BIN        49,152  01-08-00  6:38p VIDEOROM.BIN
> RECYCLED       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:48p RECYCLED
>          1 file(s)         49,152 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\My Documents
>
> DESKTOP  INI           125  01-08-00  6:38p desktop.ini
>          1 file(s)            125 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS
>
> FONTS          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p FONTS
> WEB            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p WEB
> FAVORI~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Favorites
> DOWNLO~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Downloaded Program Files
> TEMPOR~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Temporary Internet Files
> COOKIES        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Cookies
> HISTORY        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p History
> INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  5:02p Installer
> TASKS          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Tasks
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\All Users
>
> DRM            <DIR>        07-30-01  9:07p DRM
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer
>
> USERDATA       <DIR>        10-04-01 11:37a UserData
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Total files listed:
>          2 file(s)         49,277 bytes
>         12 dir(s)        4,767.02 MB free
>
> *******************************************************
> dir /a:h /s
> Directory of C:\
>
> VIDEOROM BIN        49,152  01-08-00  6:38p VIDEOROM.BIN
> RECYCLED       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:48p RECYCLED
>          1 file(s)         49,152 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\My Documents
>
> DESKTOP  INI           125  01-08-00  6:38p desktop.ini
>          1 file(s)            125 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\Program Files
>
> INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:50p InstallShield Installation
> Information
> QMGR           <DIR>        08-01-01  8:50a QMgr
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
>
> UNINST~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:42a Uninstall Information
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\Program Files\Uninstall Information
>
> HTMLHE~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:42a HTML Help
> ICW            <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a ICW
> ADDRES~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a AddressBook
> OUTLOO~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a OutlookExpress
> DXM_RU~1       <DIR>        10-05-01 12:43a DXM_Runtime
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS
>
> INF            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:35p INF
> SYSBCKUP       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:35p SYSBCKUP
> PIF            <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p PIF
> SYSTEM   DAT     5,861,408  12-26-01 10:20p SYSTEM.DAT
> USER     DAT       884,768  12-26-01 10:31p USER.DAT
> APPLOG         <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p APPLOG
> SPOOL          <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p spool
> SHELLNEW       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p ShellNew
> RECENT         <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p Recent
> NETHOOD        <DIR>        07-30-01  4:36p NetHood
> PRINTH~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  4:56p PrintHood
> INSTAL~1       <DIR>        07-30-01  5:02p Installer
> MSDOWNLD TMP   <DIR>        07-30-01  5:03p msdownld.tmp
> SHELLI~1           915,372  12-26-01  3:20a ShellIconCache
>          3 file(s)      7,661,548 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\All Users
>
> DRM            <DIR>        07-30-01  9:07p DRM
>          0 file(s)              0 bytes
>
> Total files listed:
>          5 file(s)      7,710,825 bytes
>         21 dir(s)        4,767.02 MB free
>
>
>
>
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