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4 total messages Started by Fantacmet Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:43
Program installations
#925
Author: Fantacmet
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:43
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I am at my wits end I swear it.  Forget all the other problems I am having
with linux.  I bought a copy of maximum linux and it came with a CD which
had some nice software I would like to install.  The problem is I have no
clue how to install them, if I just start uncompressing them it doesn't work
( should know I tried and now I have wasted space but thats another story)
and there are no automated installation executables or anything like that
and I don't even know how to find an executable.  In the micro$oft garbage
there is .com, .bat, and .exe extensions identifying programs as
executables.  I think two things that would make linux just excellent is
automated installation procedures for programs, and executables that have a
specific extension.  I realize the latter is most likely not going to happen
as alot of stuff would have to be done to make this so.  However the former
can be done, and needs to be done for those who are not admins and don't
know their way around linux(people such as me).  I am a hardware and
internet tech but I have no experience with linux.  All my experience is
with dos, win3.x and win9x.  With all the new M$ crap coming out such as me
and 2000 I know this stuff is garbage and have decided it is time to go to
linux.  Although I am still using 98se and will be along side of linux for
awhile.  I am running peanut linux version 8.2 with kernel version 2.2.18
and KDE(which I cannot stand) Speaking of which I cannot figure out how to
get xfce installed off the maximum linux CD and every suggestion that I have
tried including the stuff that was step by step has been no help whatsoever.
Any help anyone could give me would be of great help.

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Re: Program installations
#926
Author: Fantacmet
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:43
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As an appendage, I know people have tried to help me with a couple of things
and have said something abuot the make command and gave me instructions
while I was in windows so I could try it when I rebooted into linux only to
find out there is no make command.  Or at least none that I can find.

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Fantacmet <fantacmet@ipns.com> wrote in message
news:MtgB6.145203$lj4.4485200@news6.giganews.com...
> I am at my wits end I swear it.  Forget all the other problems I am having
> with linux.  I bought a copy of maximum linux and it came with a CD which
> had some nice software I would like to install.  The problem is I have no
> clue how to install them, if I just start uncompressing them it doesn't
work
> ( should know I tried and now I have wasted space but thats another story)
> and there are no automated installation executables or anything like that
> and I don't even know how to find an executable.  In the micro$oft garbage
> there is .com, .bat, and .exe extensions identifying programs as
> executables.  I think two things that would make linux just excellent is
> automated installation procedures for programs, and executables that have
a
> specific extension.  I realize the latter is most likely not going to
happen
> as alot of stuff would have to be done to make this so.  However the
former
> can be done, and needs to be done for those who are not admins and don't
> know their way around linux(people such as me).  I am a hardware and
> internet tech but I have no experience with linux.  All my experience is
> with dos, win3.x and win9x.  With all the new M$ crap coming out such as
me
> and 2000 I know this stuff is garbage and have decided it is time to go to
> linux.  Although I am still using 98se and will be along side of linux for
> awhile.  I am running peanut linux version 8.2 with kernel version 2.2.18
> and KDE(which I cannot stand) Speaking of which I cannot figure out how to
> get xfce installed off the maximum linux CD and every suggestion that I
have
> tried including the stuff that was step by step has been no help
whatsoever.
> Any help anyone could give me would be of great help.
>
> --
> Fantacmet@ipns.com
> Fantacmet@yahoo.com
> Fantacmet.tripod.com/main
>
> If ignorance is bliss then why aren't more people happy?
>
>
>
Re: Program installations
#930
Author: Brian Penix
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 03:08
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:43:00 -0400, "Fantacmet" <fantacmet@ipns.com>
wrote:

>I am at my wits end I swear it.  Forget all the other problems I am having
>with linux.  I bought a copy of maximum linux and it came with a CD which
>had some nice software I would like to install.  The problem is I have no
>clue how to install them, if I just start uncompressing them it doesn't work
>( should know I tried and now I have wasted space but thats another story)
>and there are no automated installation executables or anything like that
>and I don't even know how to find an executable.  In the micro$oft garbage
>there is .com, .bat, and .exe extensions identifying programs as
>executables.  I think two things that would make linux just excellent is
>automated installation procedures for programs, and executables that have a
>specific extension.  I realize the latter is most likely not going to happen
>as alot of stuff would have to be done to make this so.  However the former
>can be done, and needs to be done for those who are not admins and don't
>know their way around linux(people such as me).  I am a hardware and
>internet tech but I have no experience with linux.  All my experience is
>with dos, win3.x and win9x.  With all the new M$ crap coming out such as me
>and 2000 I know this stuff is garbage and have decided it is time to go to
>linux.  Although I am still using 98se and will be along side of linux for
>awhile.  I am running peanut linux version 8.2 with kernel version 2.2.18
>and KDE(which I cannot stand) Speaking of which I cannot figure out how to
>get xfce installed off the maximum linux CD and every suggestion that I have
>tried including the stuff that was step by step has been no help whatsoever.
>Any help anyone could give me would be of great help.

I too am fairly new to Linux but I have found that to install a
program is fairly easy. After decompression to a temp directory, if
there is a "makefile" just type "make" in that directory. Then right
after compiling, type "make-install" and viola...you got it installed.
Make is a command located in the /bin or /sbin dir that is executed to
compile source code into something the machine can use. An alternative
I have also found is to use RPM manager and install that way. If you
have a precompiled bin file, to execute it type "./filename.bin"
remembering to put the ./ before the file name. Hope this helps.
B.
Re: Program installations
#721
Author: mlarkin
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:05
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Hello Fantacmet!
I have just completed a course in Red Hat Linux v.7 where part of our
experience was to walk thru the intallation of this software in a dual boot
environment with Windows 98 - I have since done it at home as well in a dual
boot environment with Windows ME.  It is unclear from this info. what your
intended plan of application for this software is.  I will convey to you
what I have learned - perhaps you will find it helpful.
To being with we were required to partition our hard drives using PQMagic
version 4 or 5 (depending upon the Operating System (O.S.) needs).  These
partitions were very specific and could cause the MS 98 system to become
unstable if not properly done.  We were working, in both cases with a 20 GB
Hard drive.  (PARTITION INFO:  Resize/move C: drive to size not exceeding
8GB, Create extended partition (approx 11 GB)for remaining MB, then create 1
logical partition, Linux Ext2 Type, of approx. 15.7 MB (max.) (this
partition needs to be made bootable** see note later on - how to make it so
with cfdisk (linux application).  The next logical
partition to create is again a Linux Ext2 Type of 11000MB, and finally
create 1 logical partition of Linux Swap Type 439 MB (remaining space).
Once this is completed exit PQMagic and select yes to apply changes.  Your
computer will reboot and apply changes in DOS just before starting
Windows98.  The PC should boot one more time - check to see that it still
boots in Windows properly.
WE ARE NOW READY TO INSTALL LINUX (skip the previous info. if you do not
want a dual boot system ... Server installation cannot work in dual boot
environment - it will wipe out and replace MS O.S.)
Put the LINUX CD in the cdrom drive and RESTART Windows 98 or ME.  Your PC
is now booting from the CDROM.  At boot prompt, just press ENTER.
The process for this installation was as follows:  Configuration Screens -
Language=English, Keyboard - click NEXT, Mouse - your mouse type,
Installation Method - Workstation.  From here, for dual boot environment,
you will want to select the Druid Partition Method and select the hda 5 (not
1, this is where windows sits).  Select EDIT and change the mount point to
/boot, the size should be 15 MB and the Partition Type should be: Linux
Native (if not adjust here).  NEXT, highlight hda6, select EDIT and ensure
this mount point is set to /, size is 11000 MB and Partition Type is again,
Linux Native. Next, the partitions to format are hda5 and hda 6 - be careful
not to touch the hda1 or you will have to reinstall your windows environment
(it can be resized to no more than 8G but do not make bootable (/boot).
Linux will think it should boot from there .... Next you may select to check
for bad blocks option.  LILO Configuration - UNCHECK Create Boot Disk.
Install Lilo boot record on: first sector (/dev/hda5).  DO NOT Check MASTER
BOOT RECORD.  Next.  We checked DHCP because we were using Dynamic IP
Addresses and clicked "Activate on boot".  Time - What ever you're on?? -
Root password (for system Adminstrator): root and then enter your password
(and don't forget it!!)  Authentication Configuration:  Click NEXT.
SELECTING and INSTALLING PACKAGES: scroll down to bottom and select
"everything" (or select own and individually double click every pkg. [we did
not include the KERNEL folder pkgs in this].  Next.  Monitor Configuration:
according to your preferences ... Next  WAIT while your Linux installation
works to install software pkgs on your partition.  EXIT to finish - the
machine will eject your CD and reboot .  Start  - you should now have the
choice of Linux or Dos at boot up.  select one and have fun.  You will want
to make a boot disk for Linux - it will be helpful in troubleshooting - Disk
1 & 2 are installation packages - Disk 3 is utilities and may come in handy
in troubleshooting.  After installation and user id and password
authentication type "startx at the prompt to enter the user friendly GUI
interface.

If windows/dos does not appear to be available after installation, type
"cfdisk" and make the hda5 bootable.  This should solve your problem ... if
not it might be bigger than me ... enjoy!
"Fantacmet" <fantacmet@ipns.com> wrote in message
news:MtgB6.145203$lj4.4485200@news6.giganews.com...
> I am at my wits end I swear it.  Forget all the other problems I am having
> with linux.  I bought a copy of maximum linux and it came with a CD which
> had some nice software I would like to install.  The problem is I have no
> clue how to install them, if I just start uncompressing them it doesn't
work
> ( should know I tried and now I have wasted space but thats another story)
> and there are no automated installation executables or anything like that
> and I don't even know how to find an executable.  In the micro$oft garbage
> there is .com, .bat, and .exe extensions identifying programs as
> executables.  I think two things that would make linux just excellent is
> automated installation procedures for programs, and executables that have
a
> specific extension.  I realize the latter is most likely not going to
happen
> as alot of stuff would have to be done to make this so.  However the
former
> can be done, and needs to be done for those who are not admins and don't
> know their way around linux(people such as me).  I am a hardware and
> internet tech but I have no experience with linux.  All my experience is
> with dos, win3.x and win9x.  With all the new M$ crap coming out such as
me
> and 2000 I know this stuff is garbage and have decided it is time to go to
> linux.  Although I am still using 98se and will be along side of linux for
> awhile.  I am running peanut linux version 8.2 with kernel version 2.2.18
> and KDE(which I cannot stand) Speaking of which I cannot figure out how to
> get xfce installed off the maximum linux CD and every suggestion that I
have
> tried including the stuff that was step by step has been no help
whatsoever.
> Any help anyone could give me would be of great help.
>
> --
> Fantacmet@ipns.com
> Fantacmet@yahoo.com
> Fantacmet.tripod.com/main
>
> If ignorance is bliss then why aren't more people happy?
>
>
>
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