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Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.

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From: Jeff Gaer
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 00:00
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Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
> 
> In article <3280C644.36CB@io.com>
> Jeff Gaer <doggey@io.com> wrote:
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> >> But you have to prove
> >> it...

No, read the constituion. You only have to convince 2/3 of the senate
to vote for conviction. That is IMHO an EXTREMELY lose standard of
proof. There is NO requirement that the President be convicted of
crimes before being impeached, and the workind of the constition
implys that imepachment could ( should?) PRECEDE, conviction
in a court of law under the same charges. 

> True; however, practically speaking, there's no point in impeachment > without a reasonable expectation of conviction.

There would be if the GOP was on a politically motivated witch hunt
as you previously suggested. Consider the average voter being
informed that Clinton was Impeached just weeks before the polls.
While that would clearly be a horrendous abuse of congressional
power, it was also within the means of the GOP to do so.
So much for your withchunt theory.


> Not exactly.  The House committee (Judiciary, I believe) voted to > recommend impeachment to the full House; Nixon
> resigned before the House acted.

You are  correct, Nixon resigned before the house voted.
Here are the charges

 Obstruction of Justice
 Abuse of Power
 Failure to comply with congressional supoenas

Readers can decide for themselves how much evidence there is
against Clinton in the first two. Clinton has pushed the envelope
but is clearly not guilty of the third, (yet). 

> Again, not exactly.  They needed a majority of House members who would >act so irresponsibly.  They didn't have it 2 years 
> ago and they don't have it now; most Congressmembers (regardless of >party affiliation) are more responsible than that.

I think you are contradicting your self here. Who are 'THEY'. Are they
the GOP or aren't THEY. As I said so much for the theory of the 
GOP withc hunt.

BTW, this is a much more fitting style of posting for a University
Address. I and I am sure most readers appreciate the change in style. 




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From: Jeff Gaer <doggey@io.com>
Subject: Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.
Date: 1996/11/07
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