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Article #2059Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.
From: Jeff Gaer
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 00:00
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Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > > In article <3280C644.36CB@io.com> > Jeff Gaer <doggey@io.com> wrote: > > >> But you have to prove > >> it... No, read the constituion. You only have to convince 2/3 of the senate to vote for conviction. That is IMHO an EXTREMELY lose standard of proof. There is NO requirement that the President be convicted of crimes before being impeached, and the workind of the constition implys that imepachment could ( should?) PRECEDE, conviction in a court of law under the same charges. > True; however, practically speaking, there's no point in impeachment > without a reasonable expectation of conviction. There would be if the GOP was on a politically motivated witch hunt as you previously suggested. Consider the average voter being informed that Clinton was Impeached just weeks before the polls. While that would clearly be a horrendous abuse of congressional power, it was also within the means of the GOP to do so. So much for your withchunt theory. > Not exactly. The House committee (Judiciary, I believe) voted to > recommend impeachment to the full House; Nixon > resigned before the House acted. You are correct, Nixon resigned before the house voted. Here are the charges Obstruction of Justice Abuse of Power Failure to comply with congressional supoenas Readers can decide for themselves how much evidence there is against Clinton in the first two. Clinton has pushed the envelope but is clearly not guilty of the third, (yet). > Again, not exactly. They needed a majority of House members who would >act so irresponsibly. They didn't have it 2 years > ago and they don't have it now; most Congressmembers (regardless of >party affiliation) are more responsible than that. I think you are contradicting your self here. Who are 'THEY'. Are they the GOP or aren't THEY. As I said so much for the theory of the GOP withc hunt. BTW, this is a much more fitting style of posting for a University Address. I and I am sure most readers appreciate the change in style. > > ========================================= > Cullen Performance Hall web page: > http://www.cph.uh.edu/cph/cullenhp.htm. > > Houston Dance Coalition web page: > http://www.cph.uh.edu/hdc/hdc.htm. > > Ask me about the Texas-Dance, Houston-Performances, > and Cichlid mailing lists. > =========================================
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ce2c,14f0b81757e31926 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ce2c,public X-Google-Thread: f6e0e,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidf6e0e,public X-Google-Thread: fab07,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidfab07,public X-Google-Thread: 115d61,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid115d61,public X-Google-Thread: 100eae,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid100eae,public X-Google-Thread: fbf1a,14f0b81757e31926 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbf1a,public X-Google-Thread: f7d58,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidf7d58,public X-Google-Thread: 105e42,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid105e42,public From: Jeff Gaer <doggey@io.com> Subject: Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History. Date: 1996/11/07 Message-ID: <3281EDF1.3FBF@io.com> X-Deja-AN: 195634611 references: <54eqfm$332@news.internetmci.com> <3277f894.20669672@news.earthlink.net> <559i7g$r03@voyager.caro.NET> <327A4549.5407@aud.alcatel.com> <55dhmr$n5t@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <327A6292.166@amd.com> <327CDBA0.342C@servtech.com> <327E1338.4886@atlas.den.mmc.com> <55lmj5$cfc@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <55suvq$sa@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <mh-0711961510180001@ip208.sna.primenet.com> <E0KBJ6.9sH@news2.new-york.net> <3280C644.36CB@io.com> <562ir3$g39@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii mime-version: 1.0 reply-to: doggey@io.com newsgroups: ak.general,alabama.general,alt.flame,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,aol.neighborhood.az.phoenix.general,aol.neighborhood.il.chicago.general,aol.neighborhood.in.indianapolis.general,aol.neighborhood.ny.general,aol.neighborhood.ny.new-york.general,atl.general,austin.general,az.general,ba.general,ca.general,co.cos.general,co.fort-collins.general,co.general,compuserve.general,dc.general,delaware.general,dfw.general,fl.general,houston.general x-mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I)