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Article #2097Re: Haven't we had enough
From: Ernie Englehart
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 00:00
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Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > > In article <3280AE7C.C42@agcs.com> > Ernie Englehart <englehae@agcs.com> wrote: > > >> >This is a native-born American citizen. She didn't know ANY of these. And > >> >she has the same voting power as the rest of us. This scares me. > >> > > >> I'm not that surprised, really. Try asking someone to > >> add 1/2 and 1/3. I mean people that made it out of > >> junior high. > > > > This points to the problems with our public schools. They are producing > > millions of stupid people every year. It scares me, too. > > What makes you so sure she attended public school? Because a private school would make sure that their students learned the subject matter. Every problem I have ever heard about schools was about public schools; I have never heard of any problems with private schools. Since parents directly pay for their children's education in a private school, they make sure that the school is run right. > Even if she did, your > the-government-is-responsible-for-everything-and-everyone attitude is > mistaken, I think. Where did I state that the government was responsible for this? I never said any such thing. Public schools are funded with public money, but are run by school boards. People on school boards are elected in some states, but I don't consider them "government". The teachers and principals are responsible for graduating children that don't know how to read, write, or do simple math. The government IS at fault to some extent because they cut the funding to the schools, so that good teachers are hard to find because they can get better, higher paying jobs in the private sector. > Those of us who believe in self-sufficiency and familty values would say > that she should have been raised better by her > parents and that she should have the self-initiative to insist on learning > these things. I completely agree. Parents are much more responsible for raising their children than are teachers. But parents place the trust for educating their children in the schools that they send their children to. Most children try to get away with as little learning as possible. It is the school's responsibility to ensure that the children are getting a good education and not allow then to graduate if they can not read, write, or do simple math. Parents are responsible for ensuring that their children have the proper values and attitudes so that they become productive, contributing members of society and not become criminals. -- |=========================================================================| | Ernest G. Englehart Voice: 602-581-4161 GO BUCKS! | | AG Communications Systems FAX: 602-582-7697 1997 Rose Bowl | | Phoenix, Arizona Email: englehae@agcs.com OSU 45, ASU 20 | | Visit us at http://www.agcs.com and "Expand the power of your network" | | | | Any opinions expressed above are strictly those of the author and are | | not to be associated in any way with AG Communication Systems. | |=========================================================================|
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e1e4,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid10e1e4,public X-Google-Thread: f6e0e,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidf6e0e,public X-Google-Thread: fab07,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidfab07,public X-Google-Thread: 1083f1,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid1083f1,public X-Google-Thread: 115d61,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid115d61,public X-Google-Thread: f7d58,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gidf7d58,public X-Google-Thread: 105e42,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid105e42,public X-Google-Thread: 100eae,e4506ffe12f9682a X-Google-Attributes: gid100eae,public From: Ernie Englehart <englehae@agcs.com> Subject: Re: Haven't we had enough Date: 1996/11/06 Message-ID: <3280FD8D.682D@agcs.com> X-Deja-AN: 194950549 references: <55qs02$n73@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> to: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <JSalzberg@uh.edu> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: AG Communication Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: ak.general,alabama.general,aol.neighborhood.az.phoenix.general,aol.neighborhood.il.chicago.general,aol.neighborhood.in.indianapolis.general,aol.neighborhood.ny.general,aol.neighborhood.ny.new-york.general,atl.general,austin.general,az.general,ba.general,ca.general,co.cos.general,co.fort-collins.general,co.general,compuserve.general,dc.general,delaware.general,dfw.general,fl.general,houston.general x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m)