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Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.

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From: Pete Prunskunas
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 00:00
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Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote:
> 
> In article <327E1338.4886@atlas.den.mmc.com>, Pete Prunskunas <prunskp@atlas.den.mmc.com> wrote:
> 
> >1) Clinton - He is personally corrupt.
> >           - His administration illegally kept thousands of FBI files.
> >             This alone is grounds for impeachment.
> 
> It has yet to be proven that this was anything other than an accident.
> 
> Hint: partisan accusations do not constitute proof.


You have the nerve to call *me* partisan?  Having *thousands* of FBI
files illegally is an *accident*?  No, Clinton-apologizer, either
Clinton has a most corrupt staff or he is corrupt himself.  And since
he *hired* those people, he is responsible for their actions.  Clinton
is either grossly incompetent or corrupt.  Either way, he isn't fit to
serve as president.

And you probably believe that Hillary is the best commodities trader
in all of recorded history.  Speaking of the queen, you *do* know that
William Safire, hardly a conservative, called her a "congenital liar"?


> >           - 20 or so of his people have been arrested and/or convicted.
> >             I believe this is a record.
> 
> The total number of Clinton administration employees who have been convicted
> is: 1.
> 
> Webster Hubbell was convicted of a crime committed before Clinton's election.
> This, of course, is significantly fewer than the number of Reagan employees
> who were convicted...even if you ignore the ones who were released on
> technicalities and then had the audacity to run for public office.


The MacDougals, Gov. Tucker, and others in Whitewater don't count?

But you are correct in one respect.  I should have said that there were
20 Clinton buddies who were either indicted, convicted, or *quit* (or
died) before they would have been.

Don't assume I like Reagan just because I slammed Clinton.  I don't
admire any president we've had for at least the last 60 years.


> >2) Nixon   - What can I say?  BTW, Nixon held only a comparative few
> >             FBI files (compared to Clinton).  IMHO, the reason Nixon
> >             resigned while Clinton hasn't is Nixon's White House tapes,
> >             i.e., there was lots of evidence of wrongdoing.
> 
> Well, that and the fact that he deliberately violated the Constitution in
> order to retain power....


Some of would argue that nowhere in the Constitution does it state that
the federal government has the right to tax the states for money to pay
for local activities such as midnight basketball.  There is no possible
way to argue that midnight basketball falls under either interstate
commerce or the general welfare.


> >3) FDR     - Cheated on his wife (she and he had separate rooms for the
> >             majority of his administration).
> >           - Tried to "pack" the Supreme Court with more justices so
> >             that he could get his pet legislation passed.
> 
> Is it your impression that the Supreme Court passes legislation (or did then)?


Read what I wrote.  Nowhere did I say that the SC passed laws.  What's
the matter, isn't reading comprehension taught in your ivory tower?

The reason he tried to pack the SC was because the SC was declaring his
laws unconstitutional.  Does the National Recovery Act ring a bell?  I
know full well that the SC doesn't pass laws, but they sure as hell can
declare some of them unconstitutional.  In case you don't know, FDR
tried to increase the SC to 15 justices.
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From: Pete Prunskunas <prunskp@atlas.den.mmc.com>
Subject: Re: VOTE: Sleaziest Presidents of U.S. History.
Date: 1996/11/05
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