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Article #2175Re: Haven't we had enough
From: Rob Aldrich
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 00:00
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Rick Bowen wrote: > > Artie_Turner wrote: > > > > Ernie Englehart wrote: > > > > >It's time to do away with the electoral college and elect the > > >President based on popular vote. Then the power to elect will be > > >placed back into the hands of the voters, who could write in the > > >man that they REALLY want to be their President. > > > >Just for the record, Einstein, no President has ever been elected by > >the electoral college that didn't win the majority of the popular > >vote. > > Uh, Einstein, Slick got 43%. Majority = 50.1% or above. > Rick Rick: Way to go, but kinda cruel to point out that Mr. Turner can't even recognize the significance of a four year old historcal occurance to his argument :) Getting back to Mr. Engelhart's plan to raise the cost of having elections by hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions), I hope he is planning to pay for it himself--rather than passing the cost of his idea onto the American taxpayers. And I assume when the person who has the most votes only receives one million votes (because, after all, we are all able to express our personal choice) the election of a president by less that 1% of the population will be considered by Mr. Engelhart to be placing control back into the hands of the voters. By the way, under the current procurement procedures of the federal government, how long would it take, and how much do you think it would cost, to get a compuer system and programs sufficient the tabulate the individual choices of 150 million or so voters? I guess the cheapest way would be to have a database large enough to put every American born person's name into it with his SSN and address and require every person voting to provide the same information on his ballot so that we could be sure that all the votes for me would not go to the other Robert C. Aldrich's in the US. Think we should limit the voter's right to vote by requiring him to get the SSN of his candidate himself, or should the federal government just publish everyone's SSN and address before the election. The latter would have a lot of benefits; e.g. I could look at my friends' checkbooks to get their account numbers and then get their SSNs from the federal governemnt and by able to use the phone to call their banks and get their checking and savings balances. This would help me know who I could borrow money from when in need. And if I didn't like them, I could transfer their funds from their account. And at banks like mine that only allow transfers by phone within accounts held by the same people, I could transfer all their money to their savings and at least bounce their checks. Or maybe, so as not to invade the privacy of citizens as much, the government could print a ballot with 150 million names and addresses and let the voter choose the one he wants. NO, I guess that wouldn't work...we'd have to cut down too many trees to make the 88 Billion Miles of ballots necessary to hold the election. Rob
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