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Re: *MAKE ENEMIES FAST* (was Re: Installing WAP on Linux Running Server)

#87
From: Jim Dennis
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:09
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In article <3A565F94.406FD169@home.com>, Frank Shockley wrote:

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>A WHILE BACK, I WAS BROWSING THESE NEWSGROUPS, JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOW AND
>CAME ACROSS AN ARTICLE SIMILAR TO THIS. IT SAID YOU COULD MAKE THOUSANDS
>OF
>DOLLARS CASH WITHIN WEEKS WITH ONLY AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF $6.00 PLUS
 ^^^^^^^^ enemies. 

 ...

>INVOLVED IN THIS SORT OF THING.
>1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?

>I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would
>actually make any CASH but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it.
>I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the
>system 
>(SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business.

 What was the Lawyer's name and address?  Were they willing to 
 put that in writing and offer to represent you "pro bono" in
 any charges resulting from your behavior.

>2. IS OK WITH THE POST OFFICE OR IS IT MAIL FRAUD? I called them:
>1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! (See 18, h
>sections1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This clarifies the program of
>collecting names and addresses for a mailing list.

 You're lying.

 ...

>in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the 
> honesty and integrity of the participants. 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = gullibility and greed

>In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it's a service.
>You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large

  Right!  Somewhere else you're willing to send me a list of 
  morons who throw dollar bills into the mail.  People who are
  to lazy to do simple arithmetic.  Here's an example:



>---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS
> Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own
> posting.  Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and 
> drag your cursor to the bottom of this letter, and select 'copy' from 
> the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory.

 Wow.  This "entire letter" isn't already in my computer's memory.
 How could I be reading it then?

 I don't have an "edit" menu (nor a mouse cursor, nor even a mouse on 
 this system).

>Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of
>the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a
>copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list.

 Notepad.  That's one of those damn MS Windows thingies, isn't it?

>Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do
>your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go 
back to.

>Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various
>newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.)

 Netscape, IE, for newsreading!  Egads, how NASTY! (give me tin, gnus,
 or slrn any day).

>Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new
>message by 
>highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit
>menu. Fill 
>in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they
>scroll through 
>the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message
>button. You're 
>done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to
>do is jump 
>to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it
>will take
>about 30 seconds for each newsgroup!
>**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE CASH YOU WILL
>MAKE!!

 30 seconds!  Any idiot could write a script to automate this.
 The problem is that too many idiots have!

>Now the WHY part:

 ... [early iterations ellided] ... 

>I will bring in an additional $343.00! Now, those 343 persons turn
>around and post the
>MINIMUM 300 with my name at #3 and only receive 7 replies each, I will
>make an additional 

	343 * 300 = 102900

  ... so now we have 100k stupid postings in 32K newsgroups which 
  about .01 per cent of the netnews reading population is STUPID
  enough to read.  Obviously I was stupid enough to read this
  one, but I decided to review my basic arithmetic over my first
  cup of coffee.  

  So we've made three postings to every newsgroup.  At which point
  *everyone* who reads netnews has seen it.  All this and you didn't
  make enough to make one month's rent.

>$2401.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 2401 persons post
>a MINIMUM 300 
>letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 7 replies, that
>just made me
>$16,807.00!!! Those 16807 persons will all deliver this message to 300

 	2401 * 300 = 720300 
 	720300 / 32000 = 22 messages IN EVERY GODDAMN NEWSGROUP!  

	16807 * 300 / 32000 = 157 messages 

 Anyone who can't figure out that the market saturation point nets
 WAY less then $200 dollars is truly an idiot.

 ...

>putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing
>to remember
>is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are
>joining the 
>internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!!

 Less then .01 percent of those "thousands" of people are stupid enough
 to send you any money.

 ...

>*2. You may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future CASH. (Or
>Database or Spreadsheet software.)

 ... 

  Anyone want to place bets that someone behind this post also sells
  spam lists? 
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From: jimd@vega.starshine.org (Jim Dennis)
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Subject: Re: *MAKE ENEMIES FAST* (was Re: Installing WAP on Linux Running Server)
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