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Here is a link to debt the US govt will be in for long time to come
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080123/ts_nm/iraq_usa_spending_dc




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steb" <stenno@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: tx.politics.republic,alt.politics,sac.politics,dc.politic
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: The fixed Market and Rich Advantages over the Poor


> stocks are not like they use to be, people with inside information seem to
> keep knowing and betting successfully before the general market. which
> direction the stock goes.Stocks don't go up over the long term as much as
> they go up and down, now the question is what mm and insiders allowed to 
> do
> legally and make money before investors? Please read on and send to as 
> many people as possible
>
> ">> Subject: Stocks in US are Giant Gambling machines, Election Reform,
>>
>>
>>> PLEASE TELL OTHERS SEND THIS POST AROUND THE NET, Its based on truth and
>>> trying to protect people /We need election reform NOW tell others.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>
>>>
>>>> it use to be stocks were held for values, now they go down because they
>>>> can
>>>> usually the most or  the more money you have in it. the more it goes
>>>> down
>>>> or more likely it will go down. If these things are
>>>> not controlled then Humans don't breathe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Supreme Court finds against investors. How surprising? This countries
>>>> needs
>>>> election reform now.The gov is now for and by big business, Oil
>>>> dependence,
>>>> big business allowed to steal from people, dependence on wrong things.
>>>> Rich
>>>> people allowed to make and interrpret the rules,
>>>> rippoffs based on how much you tinvest. The more you invest the more
>>>> chance
>>>> your stocks go opposite way. I had six stocks, the ones that my friends
>>>> invested the
>>>> most has tanked three times the market percentage almost and thats
>>>> pretty
>>>> steeep. Great market segment, great recommendations and of course great
>>>> way
>>>> to take investors money cause it showed up.
>>>> Please pass this on to others from now on, remember the next time they
>>>> find
>>>> a good reason to take your money.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "steb" <stenno@yahoo.com>
>>>> Newsgroups:
>>>> misc.invest.stocks,alt.crme,alt.health,alabama.politics,fl.politics
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate,
>>>> Values
>>>> ,
>>>> Spread
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values ,
>>>>> Spread
>>>>> of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence.
>>>>> Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to
>>>>> care
>>>>> most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now
>>>>> defauting
>>>>> to
>>>>> control and censureship and violence more rules for rich and big
>>>>> business?
>>>>> Do other places have it worse? Absolutely in fact the world is much
>>>>> more
>>>>> insane  but that doesn't make what is
>>>>> happening here anybetter.The selling off of nuke secrets by the paks 
>>>>> is
>>>>> inconceivable and this by a so called friend? This will utimately 
>>>>> spell
>>>>> disaster for millions of people and the guy who did this is living in
>>>>> luxury.
>>>>> Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they 
>>>>> dont'
>>>>> talk
>>>>> to you anymore lol)
>>>>> My email: mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be
>>>>> long.
>>>>> They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will
>>>>> end
>>>>> ?
>>>>> When most people have lost and gotten out.  you know why stocks tank
>>>>> fast
>>>>> after more people invest? To clean out your investment. Over and over
>>>>> the
>>>>> stock exchange is ascam allowed to happen by Congress who does little
>>>>> to
>>>>> take the human factor out of stock transactions but they can. The one
>>>>> area
>>>>> where automation would probably work they refuse to do it. Getting rid
>>>>> of
>>>>> market makers. We need election reform badly.
>>>>> When will markets go back up ? After you sell for loss  When the most
>>>>> people get out, thats when the stocks will go
>>>>> back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi
>>>>> schemes.
>>>>> The more money you invest the MORE likely they take it opposite your
>>>>> investment. Day traders lost not because of 50/50 chance of loss its
>>>>> because they can go against your investment, take it down once money
>>>>> shows up and literally wait till you sell  have brokers ready to tell
>>>>> you why , like changing conditions? You know whats the changing
>>>>> conditions? Your money shows up!!!!!
>>>>> I wonder why doing the right things often  don't count anymore even in
>>>>> the
>>>>> US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes
>>>>> without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of
>>>>> percentages of land and people or religion  Because know that  leaders
>>>>> and
>>>>> gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab
>>>>> Govs)
>>>>> and democracy and freedom to  diminsh. (US)  I wonder why things go
>>>>> haywire and people need to cheat and lie in order to gain from people 
>>>>> ,
>>>>> but thats not the least of problems. People are being killed in the US
>>>>> so
>>>>> help me God because of the ability of polluters to have  a negative
>>>>> effect on people and not have tv news or government protect kids ,
>>>>> children and others most at risk, thats my asssertion.
>>>>> and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to
>>>>> do
>>>>> what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad 
>>>>> times
>>>>> the
>>>>> rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often
>>>>> who
>>>>> is
>>>>> set up for pain pollution violence or loss in markets  or Big business
>>>>> ripoffs in oil and
>>>>> credit
>>>>> cards etc.. Tell you some things that happen. Pollution causes my 
>>>>> lungs
>>>>> constrict literally in so called moderate pollution.I have since seen
>>>>> its
>>>>> more then just my reaction, I have tested and seen the same conditions
>>>>> produce most asthma and respiratory diseases yet nothing is said,
>>>>> instead
>>>>> selling meds to you day and night You should see my black air filter
>>>>> also
>>>>> and you can if you look at the links at the end * I have to fear
>>>>> violence
>>>>> with over 400 murders a year in just one city. I have relatives shot
>>>>> and
>>>>> murdered by the way. Not much is done to counter it or talk about it
>>> I was charged with aphone by Sprint and have yet  to get it or remedy 
>>> the
>>> charges. With interest that has gone to 1200 charge and they can report
>>> that
>>> and lie and ruin my credit. How many bills and receipts do you need to
>>> save
>>> to prove your case after they put you on hold or talk to automated
>>> operators
>>> and still hang up on you laughing at times? I got a late feee of $39 
>>> from
>>> BP
>>> credit card sevice after they claim my payment came one day late. It was
>>> postdated days before they received it but still allowed to charge me 
>>> and
>>> lie about it close to $40 dollars on top of the already incredible
>>> profits
>>> from the gas they have to make
>>> Why because they can,, they can afford to give you five percent in some
>>> charges if they can rip you like this. Then they have other protection
>>> service fees with contractors they let them bill and they can't take 
>>> them
>>> off unless you complain for each one lol. Good luck with that.
>>> Another internet trading site offers you $100 to change to them.. You
>>> want
>>> to see how horrible the prices they give when they trade. As soon as you
>>> fill out the form to sell the price of stock rose sometimes up to 
>>> 50cents
>>> and within seconds after I bought it was $50cents cheaper.Was it legal?
>>> Who
>>> knows  and they say customer satisfaction? Heck no..They made more then
>>> 100
>>> dollars by giving you horrible prices.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming 
>>>>> about
>>>>> because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders
>>>>> ignore
>>>>> complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more
>>>>> days
>>>>> without good air. ,  because the rules for the rich keep growing at 
>>>>> the
>>>>> expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you
>>>>> have
>>>>> to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about
>>>>> the
>>>>> cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets.
>>>>> Business
>>>>> is
>>>>> good when fair, its bad and contributes  to recession when its
>>>>> unfair.Right
>>>>> now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on 
>>>>> oil,
>>>>> and
>>>>> big business interest rates and their influence is not fair
>>>>>
>>>>> Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We
>>>>> will
>>>>> soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to
>>>>> all
>>>>> if
>>>>> we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.
>>>>> People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are
>>>>> forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford
>>>>> to
>>>>> complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because
>>>>> after
>>>>> all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people
>>>>> around
>>>>> me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local 
>>>>> abc
>>>>> channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from
>>>>> phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free
>>>>> message
>>>>> boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who
>>>>> don't
>>>>> trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to
>>>>> rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of
>>>>> frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed
>>>>> how
>>>>> frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show
>>>>> why
>>>>> I
>>>>> am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of
>>>>> all
>>>>> and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening
>>>>> anymore. >>>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family
>>>>> from more ways
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Insiders  and oil companies and utilities  find more ways to rape
>>>>>>>> you,
>>>>>>>> without trying to sponser alternatives or fairer ways to act fast
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what big business is now allowed to do to you because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>> and its not just one company. Sprint charged me for phone and time 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> never used. Literally robbed me and reported to credit agency. I 
>>>>>>>> owe
>>>>>>>> 5000 for something I never received. When you complain you talk to 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> machine that cant understand english or they put you on hold 
>>>>>>>> knowing
>>>>>>>> they don't know what to say to you cause so many complain about the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> things.. I
>>>>>>>> then after swearing all this happens ask people if they are
>>>>>>>> surprised,
>>>>>>>> they can then get away at poisoning you and not tell you enmass 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pollution levels that constrict my breathing automatically at so
>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>> moderate or worse pollution levels is ok to ignore as long as you
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> want to move. Thats basically the argument is if you are having
>>>>>>>> breathing problems because you complain about quality of air, its
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> whether the damages are real or rated f or not, its who can ignore
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> anyway or force you to move when you often don't even have a job
>>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>>> to pay for outrageous costs of fuel and housing anyway.Who said
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> sense or rational reasoning makes more sense then hate, ignorance
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> control? It doesn't. We talk about manipulation of news and such
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> the world, but face it we are allowing almost the same 
>>>>>>>> consolidation
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the news stations in our country although like here on newsgroups I
>>>>>>>> still have the freedom to say things others don't. Even though 
>>>>>>>> Yahoo
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Philly blog and message boards on tv stations websites  are now
>>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>>> censured, I suppose technically speaking I can't claim we are not
>>>>>>>> totally censured in the US now as long as I have access to
>>>>>>>> newsgroups.Controlled yes, ignored by politicians yes,  for big
>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>> and people who control? Yes, but not total censure ship.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>>>> Once your money shows up in stocks or a horse  in a  race, especially
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> money the less chance your stock or gamble will win. . over and over
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> you will lose and believe me often they know why after of course you
>>>>>> lose.
>>>>>> Its like a factory where they try to rationalize your losss after you
>>>>>> already lost and they gained or right before. The streetcoms and
>>>>>> market
>>>>>> gurus have quotes always ready about broker comments to justify the
>>>>>> loss.
>>>>>> Someone says the industry is tanking or crop is rising prices and 
>>>>>> thus
>>>>>> profit will suffer. Whats amazing these things like stocks tanking so
>>>>>> fast
>>>>>> in spite of terrific ratings for week after week prior to your
>>>>>> investment
>>>>>> tanking ...What makes the changing conditions happen where your
>>>>>> investment
>>>>>> loses so often? YOUR MONEY showing up ,, thats the golden rule in
>>>>>> horseracing or in stocks. once it shows up the big boys find ways to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> against your play.
>>>>>    In fact I bet you, you  will lose much more
>>>>>> then you will gain. Stocks have evolved.. to where your money shows 
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> played against.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found the exact theory in horse racing too but like who cares 
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>> Look I try to explain in more detail below, but to be crude it all
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> down to this: (stocks) They all go down relative to how many people
>>>>>> invested
>>>>>> and when. When the kitty ( pot) gets too saturated, its time to clean
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> the peoples investment no matter how good. sometimes its becauses
>>>>>> insiders
>>>>>> selling with good information and other times its because brokers 
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> something you don't but often they don't have to even have a
>>>>>> reason..they
>>>>>> say stocks move for no particular reason when they don't have to give
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> reason  Well don't believe it, believe this, once your big money 
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> thats when the stocks start going opposite your play over and over
>>>>>> again
>>>>>> ..Thats the changing condition they talk about.  This recent 
>>>>>> recession
>>>>>> where the nasdaq went down more in two weeks then in two years in the
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> market. Why because its easier to take your money faster then slower.
>>>>> This is  not the first time the good stocks that were popular took a
>>>>> dive
>>>>> that way remember early 2000?
>>>>>>> coincidence when the markets tank they tank fast and take your money
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>> wih it  Its no accident  when they go up and write about
>>>>>> great movers, your stock is not the one they talk about  you should
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> had. The stocks that skyrocket are always without your money in it
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> under the radar. I guarantee your uncle was not in it either. Gosh I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> missed playing that one! lol why is that?
>>>>>> Stocks are a bonafide ponzi scheme.. Why is that , because they can!
>>>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not 
>>>>> told
>>>>> en
>>>>> mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has
>>>>> harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes
>>>>> now
>>>>> we
>>>>> know more of the consequences and the changes while happening need to
>>>>> happen
>>>>> faster to reverse global warming and keep people from being harmed 
>>>>> from
>>>>> pollution. News and tv of course can keep quiet about the damages in
>>>>> order
>>>>> to collect payment from drug companies and asthma and nebulizer
>>>>> medication
>>>>> companies instead of telling people why and if they are being harmed.
>>>>> Every
>>>>> day in this life I am made to breathe moderate or worse particulate
>>>>> pollution I have trouble breathing. I believe the only fact left that
>>>>> hasn't
>>>>> been proving conclusively is if MODERATE doesn't mean in reality
>>>>> harmful.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have trouble believing our government doesn't know of this damage and
>>>>> can't
>>>>> do more to stop it instead of making more rules for the companies that
>>>>> emit
>>>>> it to allow it to continue at least to the year 2020 or 2025 . Why do 
>>>>> I
>>>>> have
>>>>> to then search for studies to show harm from pollution and be the only
>>>>> one
>>>>> to put some of the links together to show cause and effect. Are people
>>>>> going
>>>>> to see my links or believe me over their government or leaders? Of
>>>>> course
>>>>> not, yet that is what I am saying is happening . My air filter turns
>>>>> black
>>>>> in 29 days and this is what people who get moderate pollution face and
>>>>> of
>>>>> course even more ominous is also increasing illness much moret then
>>>>> people
>>>>> who get clean air too. My contention  is and please remember this for
>>>>> your
>>>>> families, that people are being adversely harmed by breathing 
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> the
>>>>> closer they live and work to polluted and congest streets, malls, bus
>>>>> depots
>>>>> and truck depots and in states and cities with few days of good air 
>>>>> and
>>>>> or
>>>>> with most pollution compared to people with good air . There is a huge
>>>>> descrepency in health and lost savings that can be measured if they
>>>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>> . One can though fill in the pieces with the links that I have from
>>>>> pollution damage, that more or less shows harm in areas that have been
>>>>> tested for pollution and its affects. Realize because of big business
>>>>> and
>>>>> our energy companies who are often very rich, and influential  all 
>>>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> not packaged together as being a major concern for danger  from news
>>>>> and
>>>>> business. Please remember your city doesn't have to get the most
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> for you to be at risk because studies suggest and I am here to verify
>>>>> that,
>>>>> by  just breathing moderate pollution can be harmful as in particulate
>>>>> pollution. Why this comparision of health based on pollution is not
>>>>> being
>>>>> done or compared is one way not to inform people of their probable 
>>>>> harm
>>>>> from
>>>>> this. Yet the gov does put out the measurement of this pollution and
>>>>> other
>>>>> sites judge the quality of air in different places. Whats sad is even
>>>>> when
>>>>> one knows of the dangers some people can't afford to move , There are
>>>>> already tens of thousands homeless and basically thats the only way I
>>>>> could
>>>>> afford to move to clean air places. I will provide the links to some 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> dangers after this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>> .  Business is good, if its fair, its horrible when Big
>>>>>>>> Business and people are allowed to honestly take advantage of
>>>>> people.There are many other differences between rich and poor that
>>>>> needs
>>>>> to be addressed.
>>>>>> . For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
>>>>>>>> protecting people from harm from pollution, by at least showing the
>>>>>>>> links
>>>>> or asking for studies to show harm correlated to amounts of pollution
>>>>> people get.  Or by comparing
>>>>> amounts of time people live and work near pollution or without clean
>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> .and then report about how much risk compared to others  these
>>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>> and working conditions  and exposure brings
>>>>> between polluted and non polluted population . Instead all the tv
>>>>> stations
>>>>> and major news has done is talk
>>>>> about global warming to some mild degree ignoring harm pollution
>>>>> brings.To
>>>>> see the links to damage ignored is like a lesson of ignoring the
>>>>> reasons
>>>>> for
>>>>> anything that makes sense. or that actually happened. The epa is 
>>>>> simply
>>>>> not
>>>>> protecting people and even after being sued the leaders still default
>>>>> over
>>>>> and over again to allowing polluters more time to hurt people in
>>>>> different
>>>>> rulings that bypass protecting kids and babies and adults at risk. I
>>>>> claim
>>>>> there is more illness, more death , more money spent to treat
>>>>> conditions,
>>>>> more dependence on harm and less good sleeping less good learning and
>>>>> less
>>>>> productivity if measuring harm from pollution was really studied in
>>>>> detail.
>>>>> At the end you will see my links to pollution damage ignored by the
>>>>> news
>>>>> many times at the expense of those who can't move or are  vulnerable
>>>>> with
>>>>> additional control allowing the news and tv stations to instead  of
>>>>> telling
>>>>> people who are exposed, ,target advertise  meds to treat the condition
>>>>> these
>>>>> people get after exposed and ignore the reasons why they get the
>>>>> condition.
>>>>> The incredible set up of hurting people and not protecting people
>>>>> because
>>>>> they can. is now a control and value system in the US.This somehow is
>>>>> good
>>>>> enough to produce jobs though.?
>>>>> If people were to see how seasons disappear practically in little less
>>>>> then
>>>>> 40 years is to see the damage global warming and possibly more
>>>>> pollution
>>>>> brings. They talk about one or two degrees swing in temperatures. In 
>>>>> my
>>>>> area
>>>>> its produced seasons that use to get snow to seasons that seldom get
>>>>> snow.
>>>>> It produces averages that are often five or six degrees warmer and
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> even more harmful if the number of people who need asthma and
>>>>> respiratory
>>>>> drugs are factored into a study they dont' seem to want to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>  >>> The big money from coal and utilities has made the changes slow
>>>>> because
>>>>>  >>> any changes that doesn't immediately do much more to  stop the
>>>>> pollution
>>>>>  >>> harming people who get the greatest percent of days without clean
>>>>> air
>>>>> and
>>>>>  >>> or greater amounts of polluted air isn't enough
>>>>>  >>> Some places more affected
>>>>>  >>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of
>>>>> the
>>>>> air
>>>>>  >>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer or
>>>>> heart
>>>>> disease, rarely are
>>>>>  >>> the studies based on pollution numbers although they could if 
>>>>> they
>>>>>  >>> wanted
>>>>>  >>> to show harm.Yet they could . in more and more places the
>>>>> percentage
>>>>> of days without good air keeps growing .They don't often measure that
>>>>> stat,or the ramficiations But I did and its very harmful. Humans need
>>>>> good
>>>>> air to sustain good quality of life.  instead  many in policy say
>>>>> defaulting>> Now business in the US and stocks
>>>>>> Now (Stock
>>>>>> brokers and online trade investors often play against
>>>>>>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>> on line
>>>>>>>> and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> golden rule to them , and don't think they can't know your
>>>>>>>> investment
>>>>>>>> history
>>>>>>>> or how likely or fast  you will buy and sell ..All they are allowed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do is go against your  play especially the more money you invest.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> ulitmately means the more you now invest the more you now lose. .
>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it.. I honestly
>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the stock market and horse racing is when the more investment
>>>>>>>> invested,
>>>>>>>> the more
>>>>>>>> people win when  your play loses .. another wards more chances you
>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>> based on how much you risked  . Over and over again the investors
>>>>>>>> lose,
>>>>>>>> someone else gains.  I  am protesting is the unfair advantage
>>>>>>>> insiders
>>>>>>>> and market makers , maybe
>>>>>>>> brokerages have to leverage against your big money. Its like they
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> when it shows up often because the same people who bet against you
>>>>>>>> pump
>>>>>>>> the things they hope you invested in,  so they can bet against you
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> aMy
>>>>>>>> contention that stocks and other gambles are played against people
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> ago when relatives in college along with a professor worked out a
>>>>>>>> winning
>>>>>>>> strategy at the track. They followed the strategy for a year and
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> fairly certain the system would work. It worked all the time fake
>>>>>>>> bets
>>>>>>>> ( on paper)
>>>>>>>> were placed. Once though the real money showed up. the horses and
>>>>>>>> plays
>>>>>>>> lost. That was the end of horse racing for them. Later as I 
>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> stocks, i saw basically the possibility that the same things
>>>>>>>> occurred.
>>>>>>>> Stocks that did good on paper, seldom matched that performance once
>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> money showed up.  The willful evolution of
>>>>>>>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your
>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> sure at least with them) and
>>>>>>>> market makers. Seriously REMEBER this ,it don't matter how good a
>>>>>>>> stock
>>>>>>>> is.. the people
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your
>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse
>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> said stocks are reasonable?  Most of the time however they have
>>>>>>>> brokers
>>>>>>>> Quoted for explanations right while the stock tanks..Those links 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> left at stock message boards for investors to ponder as why your
>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> play has all of a sudden turned south.  Broker says bla bla
>>>>>>>> .happened,
>>>>>>>> which is every possible reason changing conditions made your loss
>>>>>>>> inevitable I will tell you what made your loss REALLY The 
>>>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>>>> that made it lose... YOUR MONEY SHOWED UP and maybe others all long
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> short and that my friends are the changing conditions that allowed
>>>>>>>> insiders and brokers to go against your play and they can't lose..
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> must lose...Never put a stop order in , they almost certaintly will
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> it .
>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot 
>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated. or
>>>>>>>> invested in defense industry or computer you probably lost.  The
>>>>>>>> companies whose crop prices are used, are now said has gone up too
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> and demand is too low... . Whatever it takes to say whatever to
>>>>>>>> leverage
>>>>>>>> their money against yours is legal. This is my honest to Gods
>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>> Can you make money ? I guess, I certainly have not and no one i 
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> . i don't know if this is how it use to be or its changes over the
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> but I am guessing its changed over the years. The only plays that
>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> the stock companies insiders
>>>>>>>> who know when to buy after you lose or get out and sometimes after
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> invest also and MM and I am guessing brokerages who are in it to
>>>>>>>> pump
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> dump..and get commission fees.based on false so called market 
>>>>>>>> prices
>>>>>>>> or market prices that mysteriously are less or more then in real
>>>>>>>> time.
>>> .. How popular and great is your stock? The
>>>>>>>> more popular and the more money
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> put in the more reasons the people in the markets can bet against
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> lose,.. the markets  don't  have to go down  for you to lose, just
>>>>>>>> opposite
>>>>>>>> your positions!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> conclusions I le
>>>>>>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate 
>>>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>>>> ownership?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> world?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>>>>>>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>>>>>>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>>>> Do you see credit card companies and big business have a lock to ruin
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> credit and charge outrageous fees ? If they lie, how much time do you
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to save every letter and transaction? And mark my words they will lie
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> collect and steal from you because they can. They will throw in
>>>>>> charges
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> your bills and claim that was part of the game they call business ,
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> much time do you have to counter them?
>>>>>> Congress is now a group of people who basically make rules  for the
>>>>>> rich
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> millionaires supported their wins in elections.
>>>>>, The stock
>>>>>>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just 
>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do 
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! .
>>>>>>>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this 
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>>>> to real studies .
>>>>>>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>> go down,
>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to
>>>>> go up ( . But it can
>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
>>>>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have 
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back  don'
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
>>>>>>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock 
>>>>>>>> tip
>>>>>>>> chances are great  your wave will break as soon as your big money
>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>> up.almost
>>>>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then
>>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> back up when your no
>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>> in the stock  .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up 
>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>> usually  when  the least
>>>>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there).  and you say 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> yourself I should have just stayed in  right? Who buys back so fast
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
>>>>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
>>>>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
>>>>>>>> vulnerable at higher prices and only they make the profits..  and
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> start the process
>>>>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market
>>>>>>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like a big company  I used
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>cause of  commissions.  I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approx $11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WITHIN
>>>>> SECONDS IT was $11.54,,
>>>>> dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for $11.68,
>>>>> again.seconds
>>>>> later
>>>>> Do I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can
>>>>> get away with it, is it legal? Why should it be? .   then I
>>>>> bought a stock in real time that was
>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
>>>>>>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was$ 44. 80. Did I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> buy ? no but I said to
>>>>> myself its remotely possible the market price is honest  but as
>>>>> soon as I looked at real time
>>>>> after I bougght the price was $44: 38 again .. someone  raised it
>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down  fifty cents seconds
>>>>> later. They can say I didn't have to buy but I can say is it
>>>>> legal to raise the price to whatever they can get after you fill
>>>>> out a market order/ maybe it is maybe its not, its surely not
>>>>> ethical!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?)  both trades within seconds..  this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get  your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money from big business..   Legal what?  . Never  ever
>>>>>>>>! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> however long  they  want
>>>>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers?  Your guess, its built
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six
>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>> later talk how horrible the  exact site they pumped a few months 
>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> this is really true.in order to take your hard earned dollars, its
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> ponzi scheme.
>>>>>>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what 
>>>>>>>> causes
>>>>>>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against
>>>>>>>> Where
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce  agency
>>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>>> decision ( I
>>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that  allows Tv station 
>>>>>>>> owners
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost  assures fewer and
>>>>>>>> fewer
>>>>>>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
>>>>>>>> viewpoints.
>>>>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view
>>>>>>>> points.
>>>>>>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality
>>>>>>>>>>..The stock that go
>>>>> go up the most ...all  just happen to
>>>>>>>> fall beneath the
>>>>>>>> radar,  and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone 
>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>> something.like
>>>>>>>> .."TILL Wall Street
>>>>>>>> discovered  it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
>>>>>>>> it... Why woulda stock stop  going  up
>>>>>>>> when  wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS  Its seriously  a giant ponzi scheme.? Of
>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> US.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this  country.as
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution 
>>>>>>>> kill
>>>>>>>> people and harms people yet many children and adults  are not
>>>>>>>> protected
>>>>>>>> from getting too much of this daily or informed of its dangers.
>>>>>>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people arestill  not
>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would
>>>>>>>> sooner
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> about tummy tucks or depression  in midwest then  about real 
>>>>>>>> dangers
>>>>>>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Thats the MOST
>>>>>>>> depressed
>>>>>>>> and most asthma,, totally ignored.  Why because they can? and they
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> sell ads for health care instead. Suffice to say when i showed 
>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> show harm here they ingored me as did the politicians.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
>>>>>>>> C O N T R O L and harm  is more important then truth so help me 
>>>>>>>> god.
>>>>>>>> Face
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. 
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>> would rather stay mum about  oil and coal and deisel pollution 
>>>>>>>> ,kill
>>>>>>>> their own population but then sell them
>>>>>
>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only  knew
>>>>> pollution levels realitive to harm,
>>>>> , or percentage of days we don't  get clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air does to people  you would know why ignorance is bliss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not reporting things spells control of wrong values.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better. but do nothing
>>>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>>>> to save people most at risk. its shameful. Trust me its happening
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> certain areas.,  its the Gods truth.  in the area.. People say
>>>>> write
>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answers from no
>>>>> responses.
>>>>> ya..Thats the mentality of leaders knowing your value to them. and
>>>>> thats
>>>>> the ,
>>>>> the meaness of society now. Where harming you can be ignored Of course
>>>>>>>> >> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
>>>>>>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often  ignored in
>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>> elections by  politicians and national news  and  we have basically
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members
>>>>>>>> withoutdoing
>>>>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
>>>>>>>> more still then most of the world  but thats not
>>>>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
>>>>>>>> in the US
>>>>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
>>>>>>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distancing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
>>>>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
>>>>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
>>>>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 600dollars because they could .
>>>>>>Why well of course they can
>>>>>>>>>>> get your money fster that way!!!   Make
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids
>>>>>>>>>>> bully?
>>>>>>>>>>> Look
>>>>>>>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much
>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate  or
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>> mouse trap yu can make over others.
>>>>>>>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>>>>>>>>>> crap.....We
>>>>>>>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity
>>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing.  If your a
>>>>>>>>>>> victim
>>>>>>>>>>> thats
>>>>>>>>>>> the price you
>>>>>>>>>>> pay by being ignored. and not represented by Gov. We need
>>>>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>>>>> reform badly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reporters  would sooner ask question I want answered as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy  I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or influence  , and go to sleep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. with no responses from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change might take place but its too slow and too late for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously the next biggest concern  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Phil says I need to go out and find a job.. oh ok...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thousands are in welfar line they never report on.
>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and
>>>>>>>>>>>> frisk.
>>>>>>>>>>>> cameras,
>>>>>>>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> identify
>>>>>>>>>>>> danger before they are  in jeopardy. Job Training! Do we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> empower
>>>>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>>>>> to take back
>>>>>>>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional  situations or do we let
>>>>>>>>>>>> gangs
>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>> control for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families
>>>>>>>>>>>> encouraged
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> stay together? .is it fair to give ex criminals jobs over 
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> need training and never did crime?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We should
>>>>>>>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>>>>>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. If I were to really describe
>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>> deterrents most people would rather see the expectation of 30
>>>>>>>>>>>> thousand
>>>>>>>>>>>> kids and women and men murdered each year at least instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> more to stop these criminals.  Torture is when good people hear
>>>>>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>>>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people
>>>>>>>>>>>> murdered
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspite
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area, Fbi is making a
>>>>>>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>>>>>>> for dna.. how about doing that at birth? .Not one idea to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>>>>>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their
>>>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have
>>>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> speak out.
>>>>>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil 
>>>>>>>>> producers.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed 
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> it..Man Face it  these countries we then give aid to have no
>>>>>>>>> obligation
>>>>>>>>> to fight for peace or freedom without hate..
>>>>>>> . when the same stations use the same stories over and over
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traps?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich 
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect
>>>>>>>>>> families!
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>>>>>>>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the
>>>>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> life for decisions they had no power about?  First never smoke, I
>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced
>>>>>>>>>> though,
>>>>>>>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the
>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to
>>>>>>>>>> examine
>>>>>>>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and
>>>>>>>>>> where,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> health,
>>>>>>>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how 
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were
>>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>  habits.
>>>>>>>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working  on streets
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.I
>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>> anyway..
>>>>>>>>>>  REMEMBER DON"T SMOKE EVER, .. and  Its not how
>>>>>>>>>> good a company is its how much of your
>>>>>>>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>>>>>>>>>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view&current=filter2.jpg
>>>>>>>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered,
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down.
>>>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday in it and when I am not in 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>>>> of air I don't have
>>>>>>> constricted lungs.
>>>>>>> My air filters turn
>>>>>>> black in less then
>>>>>>> 30 days
>>>>>>> I >>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>>>>>>>>>> protected
>>>>>>>>>> from refinery and industry pollution  and auto exhausts and so
>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>> without clean air.
>>>>>>>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> the twilightzone. so should we not complain when someone like me
>>>>>>>>>> sees
>>>>>>>>>> all this happening?  Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. 
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for
>>>>>>>>>> allergy
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business
>>>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>>> we need   Our teams seldom win, American Idol  was in
>>>>>>>>>> Philly
>>>>>>>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon  and California got the best
>>>>>>>>>> reviews.
>>>>>>>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. 
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> negative
>>>>>>>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or
>>>>>>>>>> schizophrenic
>>>>>>>>>> surprised@) .
>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to
>>>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how
>>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. . I
>>>>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>>>> think we need
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, 
>>>>>>>>>> affected
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> people here.  The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to
>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>>>>>>>>>> depressed
>>>>>>>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>>>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>>>> disease  and its all ignored. God help --\
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>>>>>>>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of
>>>>>>>>>> gasoline,
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please 
>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and
>>>>>>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in 
>>>>>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> coal
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city
>>>>>>>>>>> prettty
>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about
>>>>>>>>>>> worsening
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>>>>>>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming
>>>>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more
>>>>>>>>>>> violence,
>>>>>>>>>>> (then
>>>>>>>>>>> average) kids not learning,  and horrible health ratings and ads
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because
>>>>>>>>>>> politicians
>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or
>>>>>>>>>>> cab
>>>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in 
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>>>>>>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature
>>>>>>>>>>> death,
>>>>>>>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>>>>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the
>>>>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to
>>>>>>>>>>> ultra-fine
>>>>>>>>>>> particles
>>>>>>>>>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of
>>>>>>>>>>> Southern
>>>>>>>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term
>>>>>>>>>>> exposure
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> hardening
>>>>>>>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it 
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. 
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by 
>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> years."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself;
>>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007
>>>>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels
>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>> commutes
>>>>>>>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio,
>>>>>>>>>>> documented
>>>>>>>>>>> diesel
>>>>>>>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,
>>>>>>>>>>> buses
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in 
>>>>>>>>>>> cars
>>>>>>>>>>> traveling
>>>>>>>>>>> with little truck traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause:
>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are 
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air
>>>>>>>>>>> contributes
>>>>>>>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80
>>>>>>>>>>> percent
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>>>>>>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>>>>>>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people,
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5
>>>>>>>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the
>>>>>>>>>>> population
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have
>>>>>>>>>>> serious
>>>>>>>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13
>>>>>>>>>>> Aug
>>>>>>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or
>>>>>>>>>>> caring
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in
>>>>>>>>>>> polluted
>>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet  then worrying  about a drugs
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give
>>>>>>>>>>> medical
>>>>>>>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> like diet and  bad habits  is the differences between people who
>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> work  in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the
>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone
>>>>>>>>>>> ot
>>>>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the
>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>> twenty
>>>>>>>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, 
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at 
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> fault
>>>>>>>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in
>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to
>>>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me
>>>>>>>>>>> god.well
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were
>>>>>>>>>>> born
>>>>>>>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent
>>>>>>>>>>> ill
>>>>>>>>>>> effects
>>>>>>>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to
>>>>>>>>>>> lessen
>>>>>>>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world when the country that is
>>>>>>>>>>> suppose to care most about doing the right things and freedom is
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> defauting to control and censureship?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> "jsl" <nospamjsl[@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:VSZhj.52$s67.51@trndny05...
>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>>> ownership?
>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of 
>>> the
>>> world?
>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>> What are you crazy or stupid
>>>
>>>-------------------------------- 
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "yjr" <uo[@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:
>> alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,tx.politics
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
>> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert
>>
>>
>>>> >
>>>>> the fixing of the stock market continues
>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a
>>>>> reason
>>>>> for
>>>>> taking it down they will think one up. recession , drop in jobs ( same
>>>>> reason they used to take it up too lol) smaller then realized profits,
>>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, read on, The
>>>>> stock
>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually goes
>>>>> opposite your big position.. This post I
>>>>> got more email then any other.
>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is real
>>>>> links
>>>>> to real studies
>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>>> for ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in usually
>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested.
>>>>>>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back in
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money 
>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>> again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
>>>>>>>>>> chances
>>>>>>>>>> are great
>>>>>>> your wave will break as soon as your big money shows up.almost
>>>>>>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> keep it down till you leave then bring it back up when your no
>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> it.- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up ( usually
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there).  and you say
>>>>>>>>>> to yourself I should have just stayed in  right? Who buys back so
>>>>>>>>>> fast after you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
>>>>>>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
>>>>>>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
>>>>>>>>>> vulnerable
>>>>>>>>>> and only they make the profits.. >>> and  just start the process
>>>>>>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> capitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade. Don't ever
>>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade. I saw a stock in real time selling for
>>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form the price was 11.54,,
>>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68, then I
>>>>>>>>>> bought a stock in real time that was going for approx 44.39. I
>>>>>>>>>> made a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I
>>>>>>>>>> said to myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at
>>>>>>>>>> real time after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone
>>>>>>>>>> raised it close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form (
>>>>>>>>>> just a coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents
>>>>>>>>>> seconds later ( coincidence again?)  both trades within seconds..
>>>>>>>>>> This is in addition to other ways to get the traders. Never 
>>>>>>>>>> invest
>>>>>>>>>> in Scott trade. but of course
>>
>>>>>>>>>> the rest are thrown out into the fires with automatic losses.
>>>>>>>>>> Never
>>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>> a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out.. Never ever
>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best
>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>> is wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day
>>>>>>>>>> traders
>>>>>>>>>> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or
>>>>>>>>>> market
>>>>>>>>>> makers  play
>>>>>>>>>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
>>>>>>>>>> company
>>>>>>>>>> is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to be
>>>>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>>>>> against!!  . the human element is killing
>>>>>>>>>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the
>>>>>>>>>> wind...
>>>>>>>>>> They can keep your stock opposite the way you went for however
>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who 
>>>>>>>>>> fixes
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> this?MM insiders? commission sellers?  Your guess, its built into
>>>>>>>>>> the system. the investment sites
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> pump a play in one day and six months later talk how horrible the
>>>>>>>>>> exact site they pumped a few months ago and this is really true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where does it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal
>>>>>>>>>> commerce agency recent decision ( I
>>>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that  allows Tv station
>>>>>>>>> owners to
>>>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost  assures fewer and
>>>>>>>>> fewer different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of
>>>>>>>>> diverse viewpoints.
>>>>>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view
>>>>>>>>> points.
>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality I
>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>> about here.
>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> violence is ignored in general elections and  we have basically
>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without 
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge, , then they talk which
>>>>>>>>>> ones to get in now,,   rarely going up the same percentages if at
>>>>>>>>>> all ,   as the
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> you just " happened" to miss..The ones that go up the most ...all
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> happen to fall
>>>>>>>>>> beneath the radar,  and go up
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> no one you knew was in it...till someone says something.like
>>>>>>>>>> .."TILL
>>>>>>>>>> Wall
>>>>>>>>>> Street
>>>>>>>>>> discovered  it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
>>>>>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>>>>> Why
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> a stock stop  going  up
>>>>>>>>>>when  wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the
>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS  Its seriously  a giant ponzi scheme.? Of
>>>>>>>>>> course, now this
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the US.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The pollution factor which kills people is ignored in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this country.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> media would rather sell oil and kill their own population but 
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> sell
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only  knew
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> pollution readings ,
>>>>>>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> not tell you why
>>>>>>>>>> you need these things. Trust me its happening in certain areas.,
>>>>>>>>>> its the Gods truth.
>>>>>>>>>> Its
>>>>>>>>>> ok to choke and be ignored if  tv news  can sell
>>>>>>>>>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or
>>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area..
>>>>>>>>>> thats the mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course the
>>>>>>>>>> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I
>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>> about  to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision
>>>>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that  allows Tv 
>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>> owners to
>>>>>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost  assures fewer and
>>>>>>>>>> fewer different owners, and less different perspectives of 
>>>>>>>>>> freedom
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> diverse viewpoints.
>>>>>>>>>> .. that reeks havoc to
>>>>>>>>>> independence and truth..They often totally ignore the reality I
>>>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>>>> about here.
>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> violence in society is often  ignored in general elections by
>>>>>>>>>> politicians and national news  and  we have basically come
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members without
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin 
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some
>>>>>>>>>> cities! and thats more still then most of the world  but thats 
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .20 to 50 k will die from 
>>>>>>>>>> murder
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> suicide Why should the peoplei n power care,
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>>> reform. Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
>>>>>>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
>>>>>>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
>>>>>>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars 
>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> 800 after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery.
>>>>>>>>>> If a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a
>>>>>>>>>> profit on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging.
>>>>>>>>>> In american the rich get to do it  daily . How in the hell can
>>>>>>>>>> they then get more legislation to keep getting more ways to
>>>>>>>>>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also
>>>>>>>>>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist
>>>>>>>>>> countries
>>>>>>>>>> so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press
>>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when it 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag the
>>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.
>>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider 
>>>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have
>>>>>>>> watched
>>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.
>>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate stocks
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your
>>>>>>>> investment..its
>>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Finally there are millions without jobs, there are people who get
>>>>>>>> > commercial
>>>>>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who get
>>>>>>> clean air. . The
>>>>>>> largest
>>>>>>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> who ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded
>>>>>>> streets with much traffic or near truck depots and
>>>>>>> or bus depots and or downwind from coal have much more illness then
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> people who live in clean air.  but no one tells them these things. .
>>>>>>> there are people who can't afford food or health
>>>>>>> care,
>>>>>>> yet we bring millions more people here who often need help also!!!
>>>>>>> Everybody hates one another and
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from
>>>>>>> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its
>>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation. You
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often
>>>>>>> combined
>>>>>>> while millions live
>>>>>>> in poverty.. so why you surprised?
>>>>>>> Remember this about stocks
>>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They
>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your
>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>> to sell.
>>>>> The republican role models and democrats
>>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror, 
>>>>>> violent
>>>>>> crime, murder,
>>>>>> dependency on court
>>>>>> systems,hate,  pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role
>>>>>> models
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> left
>>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the 
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions. Most
>>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and yet
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.
>>>>>> God help us
>>>>>> Are there agood things about US?  yes but lets be honest what is
>>>>>> happening
>>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of death
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work  or
>>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW
>>>>>> wrestling as their role models.
>>>>>> SS is going
>>>>>> to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going to need
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> survive.
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>  stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,
>>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not
>>>>>>> politically
>>>>>>> correct), unemployment  all virtually ignored by our politicians and
>>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that
>>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie stars,
>>>>>>> and the weather ,
>>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like robots,
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> future.. and they
>>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after 
>>>>>>> you..Get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our 
>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding cause
>>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters to
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their
>>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.
>>>>>>> Kids and their  families are often treated like dirt because they
>>>>>>> need help and workers are not trained right or do what they want..
>>>>>>> Some are very good though just so you know I am very objective ... 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> you see how abuse of control filters
>>>>>>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...
>>>>
>>>> . The same
>>>> issues that one day bring up stocks (economy slowing down) are the same
>>>> exact issues the news people suggest bring down stocks after you invest
>>>> (economy and recession). I never ever saw such set up and controls  and
>>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make
>>>> no
>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?
>>>> Look
>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money you
>>>> have
>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over others.
>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>>> crap.....We
>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity 
>>>> between
>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing.  If your a victim 
>>>> thats
>>>> the price you
>>>> pay by being ignored.
>>>>>>> Reporters  would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth
>>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>> and  news
>>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows  and Jerry
>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and 
>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>>> WW
>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are
>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing people 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy  , and go to 
>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> night without
>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be
>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not 
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest concern 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for years.
>>>>>>> Go
>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have 
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes
>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.
>>>>> cameras,
>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and kids
>>>>> can
>>>>> identify
>>>>> danger before they are  in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take back
>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional  situations or do we let gangs
>>>>> take
>>>>> control for
>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged to
>>>>> stay together? . >>
>>>>
>>>> We should
>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear
>>>>> horrible
>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on
>>>>> without
>>>>> a
>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people murdered
>>>>> and
>>>>> shooting
>>>>> of
>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on inspite
>>>>> of
>>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do anything
>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their health
>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing their
>>>>> life
>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab 
>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
>>>>>>>> it..Man
>>>>>
>>>>> Face it when the same stations use the same stories
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then
>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or
>>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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