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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:41 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:

>
>Horus of Egypt
>
>"Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun 
>adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus, 
>young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of 
>day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of 
>Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the 
>head of the dragon of darkness." --James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old 
>Irish Religions
>
>The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been 
>assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by 
>thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:

He was nothing but a static statue at best.  Jesus was a human being.

The dukester, American - American
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On 04-February-2013 1:46 AM, duke wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:41 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>> Horus of Egypt
>>
>> "Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun
>> adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus,
>> young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of
>> day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of
>> Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the
>> head of the dragon of darkness." --James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old
>> Irish Religions
>>
>> The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been
>> assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by
>> thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:
> He was nothing but a static statue at best.  Jesus was a human being.

Saying so doesn't make it so.

>
> The dukester, American - American
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:54:17 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:

>On 04-February-2013 1:46 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:41 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Horus of Egypt
>>>
>>> "Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun
>>> adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus,
>>> young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of
>>> day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of
>>> Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the
>>> head of the dragon of darkness." --James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old
>>> Irish Religions
>>>
>>> The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been
>>> assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by
>>> thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:
>> He was nothing but a static statue at best.  Jesus was a human being.
>
>Saying so doesn't make it so.

Saying no doesn't make it not so.

The dukester, American - American
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You can't fix stupid.
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On 05-February-2013 8:05 AM, duke wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:54:17 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04-February-2013 1:46 AM, duke wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:41 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Horus of Egypt
>>>>
>>>> "Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun
>>>> adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus,
>>>> young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of
>>>> day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of
>>>> Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the
>>>> head of the dragon of darkness." --James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old
>>>> Irish Religions
>>>>
>>>> The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been
>>>> assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by
>>>> thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:
>>> He was nothing but a static statue at best.  Jesus was a human being.
>> Saying so doesn't make it so.

i.e. merely stating that Jesus Christ was a real person doesn't make it so

> Saying no doesn't make it not so.

I didn't say no. I simply stated that many of the claims for Horus and 
Jesus are identical, and since the Egyptian god predated Christ, that 
gives cause for speculation about the accuracy of the claims made about 
Jesus. And since you have snipped them, I repost them below..

The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been 
assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by 
thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:

     Isis Horus Madonna ChildHorus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on 
December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star 
in the East and attended by three "wise men."

     His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph"). Seb is also known as 
"Geb": "As Horus the Elder he...was believed to be the son of Geb and 
Nut." --Lewis Spence, Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends, 84.

     He was of royal descent.

     At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was 
baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

     Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by 
"Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.

     He had 12 followers and/or fellow gods, two of whom were his 
"witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").

     He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus 
("El-Osiris"), from the dead.

     The Egyptian god walked on water.

     His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," 
the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."

     Horus was transfigured on the Mount.

     The Egyptian god/Osiris was killed, buried for three days in a 
tomb, and resurrected.

     Horus, Osiris and/or Ra were called the "Way, the Truth, the 
Light," "Messiah," "God's Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good 
Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of 
Truth," etc.

     The Egyptian god was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish 
("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.

     He came to fulfill the Law.

     The Egyptian god/Osiris was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One."

     Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."

Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago on the walls of the Temple 
at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth 
and Adoration of the pharaoh Amenhotep (Horus), with Thoth announcing to 
the queen that she will conceive; with the god Amun impregnating the 
queen; and with the infant being attended by "kings" bearing gifts. In 
addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being 
held by the virgin mother Isis--the original "Madonna and Child."

quoted from 'The Christ Conspiracy' by D. M. Murdock

http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm


Do you not find it curious that there are so many identical claims?


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> The dukester, American - American
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:22:06 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:

>On 05-February-2013 8:05 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 01:54:17 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04-February-2013 1:46 AM, duke wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:21:41 +1100, felix_unger <me@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Horus of Egypt
>>>>>
>>>>> "Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun
>>>>> adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus,
>>>>> young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of
>>>>> day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of
>>>>> Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the
>>>>> head of the dragon of darkness." --James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old
>>>>> Irish Religions
>>>>>
>>>>> The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been
>>>>> assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by
>>>>> thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:
>>>> He was nothing but a static statue at best.  Jesus was a human being.
>>> Saying so doesn't make it so.
>
>i.e. merely stating that Jesus Christ was a real person doesn't make it so

But being a historical person absolutely makes it so.

>> Saying no doesn't make it not so.

>I didn't say no. I simply stated that many of the claims for Horus and 
>Jesus are identical, and since the Egyptian god predated Christ

Horus MAY have predated God becoming flesh, but God was around 13.7 billion
years before horus.

>     He had 12 followers and/or fellow gods, two of whom were his 
>"witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").

Let's face facts - horus was a wooden statue at best.

The dukester, American - American
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You can't fix stupid.
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